• commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 year ago

    you started with ‘I dont see how less workers would be exploited.’

    and you still haven’t made a compelling case, but you have shown that it’s not even a real concern for you, given that you are actually interested in pushing an ideology and are grasping at straws to support it.

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      I should have just went to your profile right away and saved the trouble lol

      The ideology doesn’t detract from the obvious. You’re ignoring the laws of thermodynamics for non-grazing animals because in your head there is some fictional world where there is exclusive grazing animals that everyone exclusively eats where reality puts that at maybe 0.0001% of real human diets. Your intentions are dubious at best, and I grow tired of you. If you really wanted to have a productive conversation, you could have explained what about the methodology of the UN’s FAO paper on land use you disagreed with, but I guess you can just reference some other paper and go ‘well it’s allegedly at least in my brain like this other one I read so therefore all goes in the trash.’ I am not a data/environmental scientist so if you want to debate bro about the particulars of those papers or their methodology seek out people who may or may not be more educated than you, personally I think they’ll have an even harder time taking you seriously.

      You can probably even get a direct email out to those who wrote the papers you disagree with. They might laugh a little, but they may actually respond. Who knows. But I’m good dawg, I’ll keep doing what is ethically sound for living conscious beings and is recommended by scientific consensus as good for the environment/climate, and you just keep on saying whatever the hell all these comments were to other people who probably also don’t want the most nested back and forth dialogue possible that goes nowhere. Maybe you’re not ‘anti-vegan’ but to engage with this content as frequently as you do, you clearly have a motive - and unlike you, Vegans will be upfront and honest about theirs. You should stop hiding your intent/background. But again, I’m good dawg. I’m interested in dialogue that can actually change people’s minds to lead a more compassionate and sustainable life and it’s clear you’ll not change your ways and no one is reading this so it will not influence others either. You will continue paying other people to kill animals irrespective of any evidence I provide and hilariously claim it’s not evidence. No interest in interacting in future, giving you the solid block. Have a nice day.

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        1 year ago

        in your head there is some fictional world where there is exclusive grazing animals that everyone exclusively eats

        i never made any such claim.

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        1 year ago

        go ‘well it’s allegedly at least in my brain like this other one I read so therefore all goes in the trash.’

        did you read the sources for any of those links. they are all drawing on poore-nemecek.

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        If you really wanted to have a productive conversation, you could have explained what about the methodology of the UN’s FAO paper on land use you disagreed with

        i spend my time how i like, and you don’t get to dictate how i communicate.

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        1 year ago

        if you want to debate

        i don’t. i just wanted to point out that you made a claim that you can’t prove.

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        personally I think they’ll have an even harder time taking you seriously.

        another appeal to ridicule

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        Maybe you’re not ‘anti-vegan’ but to engage with this content as frequently as you do, you clearly have a motive

        more poisoning of the well.

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        1 year ago

        and unlike you, Vegans will be upfront and honest about theirs

        you weren’t. you started off making unfounded claims about labor practices, and only revealed later that you have some other motivation.

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        1 year ago

        You can probably even get a direct email out to those who wrote the papers you disagree with.

        poore won’t write back. i can’t see why.

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        I’ll keep doing what is ethically sound for living conscious beings and is recommended by scientific consensus as good for the environment/climate, and you just keep on saying whatever the hell all these comments were to other people who probably also don’t want the most nested back and forth dialogue possible that goes nowhere.

        implying your interlocutor is unethical for doubting your unproven claim is the height of intellectual dishonesty.

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        You will continue paying other people to kill animals

        i’ve never done that. most people haven’t

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        1 year ago

        No interest in interacting in future, giving you the solid block. Have a nice day.

        ah. the thought-terminating cliche and the announced block. lovely. truthfully, i love the lemmy block system.