• frezik@midwest.social
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    Most of the criticisms that come from the right are solvable problems, such as lack of chargers, electricity coming from dirty sources, or lithium mining. We pretty much know how to solve all those at this point. Just a matter of doing it.

    Criticisms that come from the left tend to be more fundamental. Things like car-based cities being too spread out, infrastructure costs spiraling out of control, or having the average person operate a 2 ton vehicle at speeds over 60mph and expecting this to be safe. None of those are specific to EVs, and are only solvable by looking at different transportation options.

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      1 year ago

      But solving problems costs money! We need to be transferring those dollars to our wealthy donors, not spending them on public improvements!

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        Oceanic sources. The projects getting underway are focusing on brine pools like California’s Salton Sea, but sea water sources of lithium in general are basically indefinite, and can work anywhere with a coastline. Other harvested salts may also produce useful byproducts, and you may even be able to run it as part of a general desalination plant for freshwater.

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          Not to mention there are advances with lithium recycling, both in facilities and new processes to make it more efficient.

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            Also, wouldn’t it be an option at some point to switch to other resources? There is so much money being thrown at alternative battery technology

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          Lithium is not an infinite resource, no matter where you get it from.

          I’d also be hesitant to call it “solved” when as far as I can see there aren’t any of these facilities actually producing lithium to use in batteries yet?

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            Pop back up a few replies. All the things I mentioned are issues right now, but there’s reason to believe they won’t be forever.

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        Oceanic collection makes for basically unlimited amount of lithium anywhere with a coastline. Those factories are starting to be built.

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      The problems you’re describing from vthe right and the left are really the same problems. They’re just expressing their perception of them differently. Infrastructure solutions and spiraling costs are more challenging in less dense areas where the right tends to hold more sway. It isn’t a simple, cost effective answer. Yet.