That’s right I upvote every post I can! Its nice to be here and I hope this place keeps growing like it is and takes the place of reddit. Have a great day!
There’s really no reason to downvote in the kind of environment that Lemmy has created! Everyone is respectful and kind and every post is so wholesome!
for real. this feels so organic. i just had a chat in beehaws music community about classic rock and the beatles and rolling stones. feels good.
Which communities do you visit the most?
hmmm honestly i’m still figuring this out i’ve only been here maybe 36 hours. it would take me a while to go to each community and find their names. i use this https://browse.feddit.de/ and just search for the names of reddit communities i like. fuckcars , gardening, music, camping, mildyinfuriating, gaming, futurama, jokes and humour, doityourself, memes, patientgamers thats a few i searched and found there.
Oh nice! I’m in the wizardposting community, some freedom of information communities, fuckcars, programmerhumour, the general chat one, and a couple of others.
nice! i feel like i did when i found reddit forever ago. obviously different having come from reddit to here, but ya know what i mean. it feels like this place is run by us the users and not daddy reddit.
Also, the small communities are nice, I feel like that definitely adds to the feeling of the place being run by us. Reddit also has a habit of being cynical and uncaring, as well as having the whole “hivemind” phenomenon, whereas this feels like a cozy and wholesome corner of the internet.
exactly i 100% agree.
That is the plus of the fediverse as a whole, even framatube feels like YouTube when it just started, people just posting their hobbies and being wholesome to eachother
I actually disagree. I think downvotes are very useful for when someone posts the wrong kind of content to a niche community without it necessarily breaking the rules. a good example would be reddit’s r/bonehurtingjuice. a core element of a bhj is that the comic is unedited except for the text, so if someone posts a comic with an edited last panel that shows an extra character, it would make sense to downvote that post to indicate that it doesn’t fit the sub well, even if the resulting comic was still funny/good.
idk maybe that’s toxic, but I think it’s a better solution than outright deleting content like that when the content might still have value
hmmm thats an interesting dilemma, no upvotes means no way for users to bury “bad” content. But downvoting definitely contributes to “toxicity”. its gonna be cool to see how this all plays out. i wonder because when youtube got rid of thumbs down i was upset, but part of me is happy there is no downvoting here. i think the difference is this place is “small” and so i feel a need to work with people to have an outcome we both like because its in both of our best interest. where as on a platform with millions of users you almost don’t care what individuals think because there’s tens of hundreds of thousands of more people that are gonna come along and my lizard brain just wants to be accepted by the masses. i mean it makes sense, we as humans havent had to deal with the opinion of millions until now, 100 years ago we’d all be worried about what Jeffery nextdoor thought of us or whatever.
I think this all just goes to show that there is no “hivemind” here. Nobody is getting mass downvoted, but because it’s a small community, the rule of 1% doesn’t apply and there’s therefore no bad content to be buried.
That is the case in reddit, but here people tend to stick to the topic of communities, and even if someone posts something that doesn’t fit in, our communities are small and a little bit of off-topic posting doesn’t hurt anyone.
Totally feel this way also.
I think the solution is to report the post if it violates rules of the community. Reporting doesn’t always mean it’s racist, homophobic, etc. I haven’t reported any posts on Lemmy (no need to yet), but on Reddit you could choose why you were reporting the post.
You can also just be more proactive in upviting the posts that you like. That will still bury bad posts.
Mostly agreed.
Except for tankies. I see them, I downvote, I move on 😎
Based answer. Tankies aren’t welcome.
Hahaha… I’m really glad that so many instances are blocking LemmyGrad.ml because those guys are major-league assholes. :)
*edit: For those of you who don’t know what LemmyGrad is - it’s tankies (they hate being called that, but that’s the term for them)… hard-line communists who belittle anyone who isn’t cool with mass-murder.
drop the dirt lol whats going on over there?
Because it’s blocked we can’t go over and see what’s up lol
Blocked is not quite the right word here. Nobody has blocked them. Nothing is stopping you from going over there to see the content they have. You can visit that instance directly and sign up on that instance if you like.
What is better to say is that they may not be federated with the Lemmy instance you connect to. This just means that your instance does not aggregate things from there and will not show the posts from that server in your feeds.
Right now the site is 404’ing, but this is not because of federation or blocking. Their site is just down for some reason.
oooo is this the new subbreddit drama?
Hohoho wouldn’t that be grand a /c/sublemmydrama With The tea.
There’s already a “Community Drama” community on at least one of the instances. Go to Communities and click “All” and then do a search for drama and see what comes up.
I don’t know, but I tried to access it and got an error 404. We can’t find out why it was blocked because it was blocked.
looks like we’re in a pickle then. i’m sure something will come out eventually.
I just hope someone will tell us what’s up. The page didn’t load, but the tab image has some soviet iconography, that coupled with the name is giving me an idea as to what’s up.
It used to be called communism.lemmy.ml and it was ran by the lemmy devs. It exploded in popularity after r/genzedong was banned.
Hard communist rhetoric and shitty people apologists I think.
Is LemmyGrad supposed to be some reference to Leningrad?
Yes
Pretty sure ya
What’s lemmygrad?
tankies (they hate being called that
They literally have a tank in their logo! I always love some irony.
The funny thing is - they pretend to “own” it… but they don’t. They’re VERY sensitive about being called tankies.
It feels homey. Like everybody is a close friend here
I hope this doesn’t go away if lemmy explodes in popularity, it’s definitely one of my favorite parts of the platform.
I know, it’s exhausting. My thumbs are working overtime upvoting.
Voting is used differently here than it is on Reddit. Here we have no useless karma reputation collecting. So voting serves the sole purpose of sorting posts/comments by relevance. I used the downvote on Reddit very rarely but used to upvote frequently what i liked. Here, i would vote less but use downvotes more.
Upvoted your comment because of the information that followed-up. 🙂On reddit I don’t downvote users unless someone is purposely saying something hateful, but I downvote all the ads. It doesn’t do much, but it does something and is a little cathartic.
I don’t know. I’m getting kinda tired of the constant celebrity posts. Still upvote because I want people to keep being here but wtf. There’s enough celebrities being pushed into our lives I feel.
this is how i used to roll on reddit, upvotes for participation. not agree/disagree.
running an instance with no downsvotes.
The arrow colors being reversed of reddit has been throwing me off quite a bit.
The downvotes are red? I didn’t even notice!
I think red makes more sense for downvotes IMHO.
Oh , i never knew. That’s kind of odd.
Well in Jerboa you can change the accent color so in my case is all pink , and with Infinity too (3 party reddit app)
I’m in the same boat, but I also don’t think I could join an instance with downvotes disabled. Status quo is great, but there are times in which downvotes are necessary - seems a bit shortsighted to disable them
Does lemmy.world support downvotes?
Yes
Interesting. I may have to switch over there – I also see the value in having downvotes as an option for content that just isn’t up to community snuff. Lemmy.one doesn’t have 'em.
Here is a list of server configurations: https://github.com/maltfield/awesome-lemmy-instances
It’s really going to be hard not to say r/AngryUpVote now…
The weird thing is that on kbin.social you see who has upvoted/downvoted comments and posts (not only your own comments and posts either). I don’t know if this is just part of the activityPub protocol and don’t know if it is visible on any of the lemmy websites, but it sparked interesting discussions whether this will cause problems or if it actually enforces people to use the downvote button as “does not contribute” instead of “I disagree”.
Honestly, I wondered about this… I should look more into that. I’m fine with my own upvotes/downvotes being public on this account - i probably wouldn’t want the same on a work or NSFW account, and can understand why it’d be an issue on personal accounts for some. A necessary evil for federation.
Honestly, the main thing for me is retaining the ability to downvote disinformation, bad faith arguments, and excessively offtopic/low quality contributions to a community. Definitely not an issue at Lemmys current size, it’d be a massive issue as it grew.
Very good points and I agree with the need to downvote in case of disinfo/offtopic/etc.
Looking forward to see how this all develops.
I pretty much upvote anything I see unless it’s one of the bad points you mentioned, and a funny side effect is that I can see what I haven’t read yet because it hasn’t been upvoted/downvoted.
Technical note, of course the systen needs to remember who voted and who didn’t. I heard that it can cause considerable network load at the servers.
Yeah that makes sense, I just thought maybe that is something that would be kept in the backend and then just give the values to frontend. Didn’t know about the issue with network load, that’s interesting.
Yes that is what it does, in the backend. Every time someone pushes a vote button though, the info is sent back to the originating server, and then it is sent out to all other servers that have at least one subscriber, so that the numbers can be updated. So this is internal federation traffic.There’s now a discussion to possibly pool all those internal messages.
That is even more interesting! Thanks for all the info!
I could have gven you a link immediately … perhaps you even want to take part, idk: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3062
Was just about to edit my comment, was trying to google but realized I’ll probably never find it lol. Appreciated!
So downvotes are disabled even for communities not on lemmy.one? So in other communities people can downvote me but I can’t downvote them? Arg, I picked the wrong server.
Seems to be that way :\
All the comments ive seen have been really positive or neutral I haven’t even seen trolling on here yet which is so refreshing and strange cause im so use to there being so many trolls/hate comments its honestly been such a great experience
Agreed it seems people are much more well intentioned than reddit.
I think this is just a case of the rule of 1% not applying here, but the small wholesome environment definitely helps.
lemmy.one disables downvotes. While I do sorely miss them; it also helps me a lot.
No longer do I have to do a deep “which shade of grey is this post?” dive. I ask myself “does this break a rule of my local instance?” then Report it if it does.
Lollll shit, I want to be able to downvote things
Too bad. Welcome to lemmy; where downvotes don’t always mean anything.
