• Kaldo@kbin.social
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    Isn’t that literally what they are though? Fortnite, WoW, Runescape, Warframe or Hearthstone are all vastly different genres of games but they are still live-service games at the end. What else could the term mean besides “constantly updated”, they are a living, evolving long-term service?

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      Yeah that’s literally what live service games are 😂. Would love to hear what they would call them, but doubt we’ll get a response.

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      Live service = always online.

      It means once the servers go down you will no longer be able to play the game.

      A game doesn’t need to be always online to be constantly updated. See: Project Zomboid, No Man’s Sky, Minecraft etc.

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        What are you basing this definition on? A rudimentary google search for a definition gives more than one answer and yet none of them have “always online” as a requirement for something to be live-service.

        Hitman 3 for example is an example of a singleplayer live-service game, Paradox games like Stellaris are basically that as well, and Minecraft and NMS are often used as examples too. Nobody claimed that a game needs to be online to be updated, that’s ridiculous, so not sure who was that clarification meant for.

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          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Games_as_a_service

          “In the video game industry, games as a service (GaaS) represents providing video games or game content on a continuing revenue model, similar to software as a service.
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          Games released under the GaaS model typically receive a long or indefinite stream of monetized new content over time to encourage players to continue paying to support the game. This often leads to games that work under a GaaS model to be called “living games”, “live games”, or “live service games” since they continually change with these updates.”

          GaaS monetization can’t be achieved without a central online service. Even with Hitman 3 a lot of content is locked behind the online requirement.

          You can bend the definition as much as you want but this is what most people mean by" live service games".

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            Your quotes just support my statement, the defining points are continued revenue and updates, not an always online requirement.

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            Your quotes just support my statement, the defining points are continued revenue and updates, not an always online requirement.

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            Where in there does it say “always online”?

            Connecting to the internet and downloading new content when you are online doesn’t mean the game doesn’t work offline.

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        That’s not true at all. No Man’s Sky is a live service game, as is minecraft.

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        A game being “ass” is subjective and irrelevant to the definition of a live service game. These are just examples.