• gibmiser@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    54
    ·
    1 year ago

    Pink Floyd is my favorite band. Has been for decades. If you quiz me on the band members or the early albums? Nah not my thing. I love their work but it’s not a goddamn trivia contest. They were just some dudes who did awesome work and were in the right place at the right time.

    • SokathHisEyesOpen@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      26
      ·
      1 year ago

      “Oh you like Pink Floyd? Name every song!”

      “Nice try, but you forgot Several Species of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together in a Cave and Grooving with a Pict”.

        • SokathHisEyesOpen@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          8
          ·
          1 year ago

          I was stoned in a forest the first time I heard that song. It felt like all of the animals in the entire forest were participating in a religious ceremony. It was quite the experience.

          • gibmiser@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            Yup. Somehow that album was my go to sleep music for a few years. I don’t understand how those weird whale noises didn’t wake me up.

      • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        8
        ·
        1 year ago

        I didn’t know what that album was until I saw it for sale for 4$ at the disc store back in 2005 or so… can’t say if I was disappointed or not… it’s quite a trip to listen to!

        • SokathHisEyesOpen@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          1 year ago

          It’s definitely an experience. It’s not something you put on while driving in traffic, or at least it isn’t for me. It’s more like something you lay down and listen to at full blast while stoned, once. I’ve only listened to that album a few times, but I’m glad I did.

    • thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      1 year ago

      Music fans seem to be the hugest gate keepers, the sort that wants to cross examine you when you wear a band tshirt.

      “Oh, so you like Nirvana ? Name 5 of their songs”

      “What ? They’re a band ? I just thought it was a cool tshirt logo when I saw it at target”

      That usually shuts them up 😁

    • pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      1 year ago

      Yeah sometimes lightning in a bottle happens, and a group of people are a conduit for something awesome.

      I’m not against appreciating the work the people but into it, but. I guess no but. That’s fine, too. Just not my thing.

      Like I don’t worship Carmack and Romero because of Doom, even though I’m obsessed with the game.

  • EdherJr@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    40
    ·
    1 year ago

    “I bet you don’t even know the name and story of this obscure character that appeared in the background for 2.7 seconds, so you actually are not a real fan of [name of TV show, movie, book, etc]”

      • Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        39
        ·
        1 year ago

        Gatekeeping is essential to keep non fans from poisoning what’s good. Like the Witcher show.

        • EdibleFriend@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          17
          ·
          1 year ago

          How exactly does some neck beard fuck on the internet calling somebody a fake fan for not knowing an obscure fact prevent us from ending up with the witcher show?

          • Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            arrow-down
            31
            ·
            1 year ago

            I’m saying gatekeeping is good, not that being pedantic and anal is the same thing. Keep fake fans out of your hobbies before they ruin it for the real ones.

              • Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                19
                ·
                edit-2
                1 year ago

                Somebody who actively hates the property and wants to destroy it from the inside. Say no to trojan horses.

                That’s why I mentioned the Witcher.

                • EdibleFriend@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  16
                  ·
                  1 year ago

                  That…happens a lot? People infiltrating forums and things to try and take down a show or a movie? Are these people in the room with us right now?

            • emptyother@programming.dev
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              8
              arrow-down
              2
              ·
              1 year ago

              If by fake fans you mean trolls and others who enjoy pushing anger and outrage, I’m with you.

              But if fake fans means people who hasn’t read the books and are okay with the changes to the show, then nah, I will not accept gatekeeping them. People are allowed to have different opinions. And us fans have a tendency to be blind to what works on screen because we each have favorite parts of the book we dont want to be cut away. We need the show-only fans.

        • Fushuan [he/him]@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          1 year ago

          I only consider Gatekeeping valid for people that are in charge of converting the material to a new form, they obviously should know the source material well. For fans though? piss off, they are allowed to like it without studying it. Having the same standards for regular fans than for show runners is very unfair.

      • GratefullyGodless@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        1 year ago

        Then you must really love the fact that a space alien from the future, posted a message in our time, from the fastest man alive.

      • Ddhuud@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        8
        arrow-down
        5
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        Well, achullaly… I was only trying to keep the conversation going, on a subject that you brought up. I’m not great at making conversation. I didn’t know I’d bother you that much, or that you, given the opportunity to learn something, were going to be such a little shit about being wrong.

        jk

  • Milx@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    26
    ·
    1 year ago

    What if you have a bad memory and blank when you’re put on the spot, so you like something but can’t remember why you liked it when someone asks

    • Fizz@lemmy.nz
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      11
      ·
      1 year ago

      This happens to me when someone asks what happened in the book I just read.

    • 6daemonbag@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      I met a band I really liked, and told them so. Dude got defensive and was like, “Yeah sure… name the album you like!?”

      Motherfucker I stream music I don’t know album names. It was the first or second one, but now I nothing you. Still don’t remember it, now the band name. Vapor

  • EonNShadow@pawb.social
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    12
    ·
    1 year ago

    Wait. I’m allowed to like a book series without running the 2nd largest Discord community for them?

    Fuck, I’m doing it wrong ig.

    • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      9
      ·
      1 year ago

      That’s really stupid and it also seems to be what some people think.

      Just like stuff, you don’t have to prove to anyone that you like it by knowing a bunch of trivia. When someone asks you about obscure fact #278, ask them when they last got laid and fucking walk away. Those dipshits aren’t worth your time.

  • shami@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    11
    ·
    1 year ago

    My ex was crazy into motorcycles. She would go ballistic when I said I also liked motorcycles and would always turn my head if one was going by. Thank fuck that’s over

    • Wumbologist@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      22
      ·
      1 year ago

      Right, but the point of the OP is that you don’t have to learn everything about something if you like it. You still can if you want to

    • emptyother@programming.dev
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      13
      ·
      1 year ago

      You’re allowed to geek out or nerd out about anything too. People who tell you to “get a life” for showing your interests and passions are no better than the gatekeepers of fandoms.

    • moriquende@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      1 year ago

      That’s fine, just understand other people are allowed to like those same things without knowing everything about them.

      • The Barto@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        I don’t want to share what I know about the stuff, I’m like a nerd knowledge dragon, hoarding my knowledge in a cave so no one else can see it.

  • Powerbomb@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    8
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    Isn’t fandom and being a fan just an abbreviating expression of being a fanatic?

    A shorter version would be “you can like stuff without being a fan”

    For example, I’d say that I’m a big fan of Iron Maiden, but also that I like synthwave.

    • alp@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      1 year ago

      Maybe etymological roots or whatever but most people mean they just like x thing so they are a fan of it

    • NigelFrobisher
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      Yes. It was originally an idiomatic overstatement, like how not when people say they “Stan” someone they’re not literally rifling through their bins and sending vials of bodily fluids through the post. Mostly,

  • pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    edit-2
    1 year ago

    I love the Judas Priest logo and Electric Eye, but am just not a fan of metal in general. I have a Judas Priest shirt that feels really unfair to wear, because people will come to me thinking they’ve found a kindred spirit, but nah, my appreciation is as shallow as a fine fine crêpe