• 1984@lemmy.today
      332·
      10 months ago

      They certainly seem the most hateful, from all religions.

      The trick is to not follow organized religion. You don’t need to if you have a good soul, since you have your own inner guidance.

      I dare to say that anyone who follows a book blindly has lost their way completely.

      • Sotuanduso@lemm.ee
        English
        626·
        10 months ago

        Organized religion helps keep you accountable, so you don’t just change your beliefs in response to your wants. Everyone’s susceptible to cognitive dissonance without a concrete root.

        The trick is to not follow legalistic religion*. You don’t become moral by following rules, you follow rules because you’re moral.

        *This comment is not directed at Islam in particular. I don’t know enough about them to say whether they’re legalistic in general.

        • Neve8028@lemm.ee
          141·
          10 months ago

          You say this like it’s not possible to be moral without religion.

          • Sotuanduso@lemm.ee
            English
            311·
            10 months ago

            I’m saying everyone’s susceptible to cognitive dissonance without a concrete root.

            Religion with a concrete root is better than religion where you just follow your heart. That’s what I’m saying. Atheism is a different animal.

            • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
              112·
              10 months ago

              How much sinning do you need to see very religious people do before you figure that what you’re saying is bullshit?

              Is it not cognitive dissonance when you’ve got people harassing others for who they are in the name of a hippy that was all about acceptance and letting God be the judge of people’s character?

              • Sotuanduso@lemm.ee
                English
                26·
                10 months ago

                Yeah, that’s what happens when it’s legalistic. Following the letter of the Bible doesn’t make one moral (especially not if you’re picking and choosing what parts to listen to.) The change of heart through salvation has to come first. Without it, nobody can fulfill all of God’s commandments.

                Those who go around hating on people are proving that they don’t have it. I wish they’d grasp it, but I can’t remember the last time I met any such person. The churches I’ve attended are places where they understand the doctrine of love.

        • vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org
          3·
          10 months ago

          so you don’t just change your beliefs in response to your wants

          You do that anyway all the time. It’s just that crappy people want to believe in what you do.

          • Sotuanduso@lemm.ee
            English
            12·
            10 months ago

            You do it all the time unless you have a concrete root to keep you accountable. You can’t get away with “oh, a little stealing’s not a big deal” if you’re committed to a written moral code that says any stealing is wrong.

      • BakedGoods@sh.itjust.works
        32·
        10 months ago

        Don’t really care what she would think. Just tired of insane cults pretending they’re somehow moral when they’re really the closest thing to actual evil that exist in this world.

        • vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org
          3·
          10 months ago

          Obviously not. People considering genocide and other crimes acceptable as long as it’s somehow legal are closer to evil and more numerous than religious fanatics.

          Second closest thing, maybe. Or third, people sporting combative anti-intellectualism would be the second closest thing.

  • qooqie@lemmy.world
    3·
    10 months ago

    Anyone know if anything came about from the protests? The news I was seeing just kind of forgot about this and stopped being covered as big news