They’re cosplaying being a freedom warriors in this culture war. Keith Olbermann talked years ago about how Fox commentators just casually spoke to him as if they didn’t believe what they were spewing on air. They didn’t. It’s all a game or performance art.
Keith Olbermann was great until he himself went on to spewing garbage constantly. I found it funny that he spent way to much time posting dogs for adoption when he finally came back after the MSNBC meltdown
The Dominion lawsuit was fascinating because it showed all the behind the scenes discussions and made it very clear exactly how much Fox knows is utter bullshit on their programs. Seeing them just blatantly admit that they have crackpots on as “experts” regularly and that they’re fully aware that they’re spewing lies is just really disgusting. Even more so when their own hosts talk about how unhinged these people are and how it’s going to get them in trouble only for Rupert to tell them to shut up and stick to the lies being pushed.
Some conspiracy minded people deny that viruses even exist. I’ve had more than one person tell me that it isn’t vaccines that helped get rid of polio and small pox etc it’s increased hygiene and such.
If you start with a conclusion you can either make facts fit the lie or ignore reality altogether.
They get away with lying only because they haven’t been sued by it. The times they have, they surprisingly changed their tune (like the voting machine fraud)
These cunts will have a bunch of hibbedy-fibbedy-wibbedy-kibbedy to wave that off, too. When you don’t actually care about the particulars, evidence - however conclusive - is immaterial.
The covid vaccine isn’t like the polio and other vaccines though, nor should it be compared to them. Those stopped you from getting polio and other horrible diseases, where’s the covid “vaccine” doesn’t stop you getting covid.
Vaccine is really the wrong word for the covid one.
I’m fully vaccinated, not an anti vaxxer, think anti-vaxxers are idiots.
The difference is the polio vaccines are nearly 100% effective (after 4 doses). A single dose of the polio vaccine also offers less immunity, as in the chance of developing the symptoms. The first polio vaccines were a lot less effective than the current ones. The current oral version is only 95% effective, but that was enough to stop the spread as polio virus first needs to move through the intestines thus takes longer to spread. It’s also a much, much simpler virus that does not evolve nearly as quickly as corona viruses.
For comparison: the corona vaccines are considered more effective than flu vaccines, which vary from 25% to 75% effective against symptoms depending on the year.
These people should read up on what polio does to people, and how a vaccine pretty much eliminated it globally.
They’re cosplaying being a freedom warriors in this culture war. Keith Olbermann talked years ago about how Fox commentators just casually spoke to him as if they didn’t believe what they were spewing on air. They didn’t. It’s all a game or performance art.
It’s disgusting.
Keith Olbermann was great until he himself went on to spewing garbage constantly. I found it funny that he spent way to much time posting dogs for adoption when he finally came back after the MSNBC meltdown
They know. They’re not ignorant.
They just don’t care.
Ignorance is in their audience, usually not behind the desk.
And that audience hardly knows what it means to read, let alone study something new and use critical thinking to truly comprehend.
The Dominion lawsuit was fascinating because it showed all the behind the scenes discussions and made it very clear exactly how much Fox knows is utter bullshit on their programs. Seeing them just blatantly admit that they have crackpots on as “experts” regularly and that they’re fully aware that they’re spewing lies is just really disgusting. Even more so when their own hosts talk about how unhinged these people are and how it’s going to get them in trouble only for Rupert to tell them to shut up and stick to the lies being pushed.
Some conspiracy minded people deny that viruses even exist. I’ve had more than one person tell me that it isn’t vaccines that helped get rid of polio and small pox etc it’s increased hygiene and such. If you start with a conclusion you can either make facts fit the lie or ignore reality altogether.
They know all about it. They’re just grifters.
They get away with lying only because they haven’t been sued by it. The times they have, they surprisingly changed their tune (like the voting machine fraud)
You lost them at “read up”
You have to use their own language. They don’t need to read up, they need to do their own research.
My grandma was a nurse on the polio wards, specifically caring for those in iron lungs.
I also had a friend about 45 yrs ago who survived polio, albeit with some major difficulties.
If I ever read anything here from a polio denier I’ve prepared some choice words for them.
These cunts will have a bunch of hibbedy-fibbedy-wibbedy-kibbedy to wave that off, too. When you don’t actually care about the particulars, evidence - however conclusive - is immaterial.
The covid vaccine isn’t like the polio and other vaccines though, nor should it be compared to them. Those stopped you from getting polio and other horrible diseases, where’s the covid “vaccine” doesn’t stop you getting covid.
Vaccine is really the wrong word for the covid one.
I’m fully vaccinated, not an anti vaxxer, think anti-vaxxers are idiots.
No it’s not.
The difference is the polio vaccines are nearly 100% effective (after 4 doses). A single dose of the polio vaccine also offers less immunity, as in the chance of developing the symptoms. The first polio vaccines were a lot less effective than the current ones. The current oral version is only 95% effective, but that was enough to stop the spread as polio virus first needs to move through the intestines thus takes longer to spread. It’s also a much, much simpler virus that does not evolve nearly as quickly as corona viruses.
For comparison: the corona vaccines are considered more effective than flu vaccines, which vary from 25% to 75% effective against symptoms depending on the year.
The covid shot does nothing to stop you from catching or spreading covid though, no matter how many boosters you get.
Flu shots are giving you last years strains, that’s why they’re relatively low in effectiveness. The flu mutates every year.
They all lower the active viral load by training your body to fight the virus. Hence, they are all vaccines.
Must be the first vaccine that doesn’t stop you catching, spreading, getting sick, or dying from what it’s vaccinating against.
Well no the first polio vaccine, to use your own example, didn’t do that either. Even today it takes 4 shot to reach 99,9
No amount of covid shots stop you catching or spreading covid.
Neither did the first polio shot
It could be 0,1% effective and it would still be called a vaccine