• sinkingship@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    That is precisely part of why the problem we face is so massive.

    We have solutions for climate change, but implementing those means we can’t keep our standard of living.

    It’s also a problem in rich democratic countries, because you don’t win majorities with a politic of degrowth.

    So we hold tight on the hope of future technology being able to save us without reducing our living standard. We have been waiting for decades and time is running out fast.

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      1 year ago

      We have solutions for climate change, but implementing those means we can’t keep our standard of living.

      I don’t know. There are still low hanging fruits like meat, high speed rail and less car centricity. The reverse is also true:

      We have solutions for climate change, and not implementing those means we can’t keep our standard of living.

      As she said; Change is coming, wether you like it or not.

      The best time to make the necessary changes is still today. The longer we wait, the more we’ll lose.

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        I totally agree with you. Not going for change now will make everything only worse.

        Still, doing nothing compared to changing now will save a couple of dollar here and there for a couple of years and that seems to be what most people look at.

        Especially in politics, politicians want to get reelected next term, so it’s preferred to work on issues that can be helped within a few years, not something we need to invest now, but impact will be after next election.

        I don’t say it’s right, it is just the way it is and I believe that this is contributing to why we still go the wrong way.

        Go out on the streets and ask the people if they are ready to make a sacrifice today so they’ll be less hurt in future.

        If you ask me, yeah, go ahead! Stop subsiding fossil fuels, maybe even restrict nutrition, invest in renewables and education and finally put higher tax on wealthy people while changing the electric grid and the way we consume!

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      We have solutions for climate change, but implementing those means we can’t keep our standard of living.

      We would have to change our way of life, but that does not mean it will be worse. The technology we have should stay the same or even improve, so that by producing less, we have to work less. Imagen what a two day workweek would do for a society. That is btw how you really need to run degrowth. That is go for early pensions and reduced workweeks. There are also a lot of health benefits to replacing fossil fuel technologies.

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        My initial post wasn’t about not changing or not accepting what is heading towards us. It was more a try of explanation why we are soon slow in reacting to this crisis.

        I believe technology will improve, but we are simply not there yet to just replace fossil fuels and having no impact on the standard of living.

        I am on one page with you, we need to change, fast! If it is not too late already, but anyway, change, change, change!

        If we still got time for it, we’ve got about a single shot at this.