• Jerkface (any/all)@lemmy.ca
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        I feel like absent Hitler, they would not have self organized to put people in ovens. Whereas the workers would still have gone out and produced wealth (for another capitalist).

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          Ugh… Hitler was just the tip of a sick society. Does this mean every German at the time was guilty? No. Were they all innocent except him? No.
          Does this still need to be debated outside of middle school? NO!

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      I like this reading.

      I will also accept that maybe Elon is calling his right wing cultist followers dumb fucking sheep who will bend to their master’s will

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    I was taught to have zero tolerance when it comes to Nazism. If you don’t deal with them, they’ll deal with you…

    There is an unmarked ditch/grave for all the nazi soldiers and sympathizers from WWII near where I live. There is always room for more.

    ZERO TOLERANCE, motherfuckers!

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    For a while I was holding on to sanity thinking “he’s an idiot and he’s just drawing attention to himself.” But now, to anyone that was still thinking “maybe he really is that clumsy, maybe he didn’t really mean it”, this is it. If you’re not getting it now you never will. He’s literally, in the literal sense of literally, a Nazi.

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        I’ve known a number of people with intellectual and developmental disabilities. They’re often quite kind-hearted, loving people. Musk is not. You don’t need to insult them twice by comparing Musk to them, and using hateful terminology while you do it.

        Maybe call Musk an asshole, a nazi, a shitass fucking fleck of rotten cumstain stuck to Trump’s taint instead.

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          Don’t forget “a cunt”. Sorry… I’m Australian and not calling Elon Musk a cunt feels wrong.

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            He’s definitely a Nazi cunt by Aussie definition. But lacking the warmth and depth, he fails to meet American criteria.

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          Idk, I like re-defining that word to be used on people like him. Just call people with actual disabilities “handicapped” or “disabled”

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        No.

        This sort of argument both minimises his accountability for his actions by blaming factors outside his control, and is incredibly insulting to the millions of people with actual mental disabilities who manage not to be racist assholes.

        Elon is a Nazi, full stop.

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        I can’t stand him. Interesting that’s the word you’ve used cos in Britain it’s considered ableist. Can I interest you in the word “wanker” instead? It rolls off the tongue nicely.

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        He’s an evil retard, with an infinite amount of wealth and power, if that’s not scary Indon’t know what is.

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    I’ve been reliably informed that, unlike Reddit, I can reply “Fuck Musk”. I hope that’s the case. If it isn’t, still “Fuck Musk”.

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    These CEOs always claim they can’t do good for workers, because they need to please the shareholders. So now that the CEO of Tesla is sinking the company, where are these supposed all powerful merciless shareholders at? If I was a shareholder of Tesla I’d demand felon’s head for doing all this damn to my investment.

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      It’s a meme stock, not an ‘investment’.

      And now Musk has parlayed it, and his various pyramid scheme-like companies into replacing as much of the US government as he can get away with with his junk.

      The US will suffer.

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      There’s got to be tons of lawsuits right? Like all the people that have been fired and tons of people being affected negatively by musk probably have class action lawsuits and stuff?

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    Oh of course, if you fire all your public workers, you can’t have a genocide because there’s nobody to carry out your orders.

    Silly fucking me.

    I’m assuming we can look forward to all those cops and ICE agents being fired then.

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    It sounds like a pretty good argument for pushing back against the administration and not following orders.

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    As much as “I was just following orders” is not enough to excuse someone of their responsibility in atrocities, “I was just issuing orders” will not excuse anyone either.

    Anyone who thinks that just because someone didn’t pull the trigger, that means they’re not guilty, you can get your ass back in line to lick elons boots.

    This is in the same vein as “Hitler did some good things” kind of cognitive dissonance. While the statement may not be wholly false, the fact that anyone could overlook everything he did that was bad, to find some small piece of something he did that can be construed as “good” is simply trying to put an objectively evil person into a better light, when they do not deserve it.

    There are plenty of misunderstood people in history that did very good things, and were killed/maimed/murdered/imprisoned/tarred/feathered/whatever, because they did something that the wrong people saw as bad.

    Nobody should ever try to find a shining light of good deep down in the black abyss of Hitler’s life.

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      Reminds me of a Brazilian advert for a magazine in the 90s. It started with some large black and white dots, slowly zooming out, and the narration went something like:

      "This man was an artist. When he took power, his country was in a deep economic recession, but he brought prosperity back and made it home to some of the most important industrial companies still functioning today. To this day, many people look up to him. This man… (zoom out finishes) was Adolf Hitler.

      It’s possible to tell a lie telling only truths."

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      Hitler did some good things

      FWIW I do think this is genuinely an entirely false statement. Usually, Hitler apologists will say either 1) Hitler rebuilt Germany’s military, or 2) Hitler rebuilt Germany’s economy, but neither thing is really true. Germany’s military was largely rebuilt before Hitler’s ascension in national politics - ironically enough, with the generous assistance of the Soviet Union. And Hitler didn’t rebuild Germany’s economy at all, he just ran things off of borrowed money and then did his level best to exterminate the people who had loaned it to him.

      And not only did Hitler not do anything good, he ruined that fucking mustache for everybody for all time.

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    Musk needs to be strapped into a chair, “Clockwork Orange” style and forced to watch all 9 hours of “Shoah.”

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    I know people need to eat and times are difficult, but I would have quit way before he said that. I still wonder why he has so many employees left.

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      Well because US is exactly shaped for the employee to be a modern slave: no social security net in case you are jobless so you have to get rolled over by the boss. Breaking point for most isn’t the morality of the company but when they are endangered or can’t provide for their families…

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        food that won’t make them sick.

        and the rich are most sickening indeed.

        so it’s important to balance one’s diet after dining on roast billionaire.

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      Scout is about to open a large EV factory in Columbia SC, there a lot of job postings for those willing to move, housing cheaper too