• Noxy@pawb.social
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    20 hours ago

    Replacing nazi cars with slave labor cars is a pretty fucked up idea.

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      18 hours ago

      Pretty much anything that you’ve ever owned has been made from the exploitation of some working class somewhere. The clothes you wear. The house you live in. The electronics that you use. The furniture that you own. The very food you eat and drink is often cheap because of an exploited worker somewhere that’s paid pennies on the dollar. Your going to draw the line at a drastically cheaper car that’s leaps and bounds better for the environment than a petrol vehicle? Okay.

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        16 hours ago

        Yes.

        EVs are definitely better for the environment than ICE powered cads. But they won’t singlehandedly solve climate change, let alone all the harms when places prioritize single occupancy passenger cars at the expense of public transit.

        And sure, I’m drawing a line here because cars are one of the precious few industries where you can still buy union-made.

        Where do you draw that line?

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          14 hours ago

          Smell that? That’s the smell of virtue signaling. Just buy shit and drop the hypocrisy. At least the other guys is being honest.

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            13 hours ago

            “I buy from companies who most closely match my ethics” is virtue signaling, now?

            We live in a capitalist society, and voting with our wallet is the only vote we get. Not everyone can afford to vote, but why wouldn’t you if you could?

            If this is virtue signaling, it’s the most subtle milquetoast virtue signaling ever.

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              11 hours ago

              “I buy from companies who most closely match my ethics” is virtue signaling, now?"

              That’s well said. And good on you for sticking to your guns. You are 100% right. I think if you can afford to avoid these companies you should.

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        13 hours ago

        To be fair, as someone said, it’s not EV that will save the environment. They bring their own problems such as rare earth minerals, heavy metals, lithium fires, heavier cars = move road degradation because of weight, more PM2,5 because of the weight on caoutchouc tires, the difficulty to replace parts when broken because of the more locked design and less right to repair friendly and more.

        Are they good for the environment? More than a combustion car, probably. Are they the silver bullet solution? Absolutely not. We are in Canada and we have industries, local, that could benefit from investing into public transportation and trains. That’s true Canadian investment to our companies and solutions to the current environmental crisis.

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      18 hours ago

      Cars factories are heavily automated. Manual labor is barely a factor in their cost. China gives state subsidies for EVs and has a far stronger local supply chain.