• shirro
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    18 hours ago

    Thankfully I live in a rich liberal democracy where over 90% vote and we still have a fairly decent though far from perfect society.

    I can be outraged by what Americans let happen to their country because I’m human and a parent but I can’t help and shouldn’t help. American society needs to find its own solutions, in its own time and on terms it can live with.

    You can’t pass this off onto me.

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      18 hours ago

      In no way am I trying to pass the buck, but it’s easy to do nothing and bitch on the Internet. It’s a lot harder to be the first one to do something.

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        17 hours ago

        Sorry, but I think you and those like you are deflecting. I still see posts from Americans saying this wasn’t us. We are nice people. We have no power. It is crazy. Why are you even online telling us this? You think we blame you personally?

        I live in the other side of the planet. If I am going to help anyone its going to be some poor unfortunate struggling with poverty, war and genocide imposed on them.

        Not delusional people from the richest country on earth who had everything and lack the will to influence their own fate.

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          17 hours ago

          You don’t have to apologize it sucks for us as much or more than it sucks for you.

          It’s easy to gripe on the Internet for anybody and it’s much harder to act. In a country like the US, where do you even start? It is huge, the military has more money than god, and the police force is by and large the little brother of the military but with way less oversight and more dysfunction. You want to stop a city once? Sure, np big deal. You want to bring this country to heel? That takes coordination.

          It’s really easy to talk if you are in western Europe where your country is the size of one middle of the road US state and you’ve got 8 months of vacation a year. Same if your country has like 8 cities total because basically 3/4 of your nation/continent is uninhabitable. You do not share the same problems of scale. Period. At all. I could go out tomorrow and get killed for no reason, but what purpose does that serve?

          I’m glad you have a good view from your high horse. Consider doing something more than watch, because you know what? You could be next. I’m here asking for tips and tricks and you’re in AUS looking down your nose while you suck your own dick. Real cool man.

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              15 hours ago

              And if people think they are alone and have no power perhaps consider reading books about Abolishionists, Underground Railroad, Suffragettes, Labour Unions, Socialists, the Civil Rights Movement, Gay rights, Anti-war protests, Environmentalists and all the other ordinary Americans who made a fucking effort and delivered real improvements to peoples every day lives while the thoughts and prayers brigade wasted the last decade taking selfies and lamenting their disenfranchisement on social media. The template is there. Just read a fucking book.