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Summary
The White House has directed the State and Treasury Departments to draft a proposal for lifting some U.S. sanctions on Russia as part of Trump’s effort to restore ties and end the Ukraine war.
The proposal could ease restrictions on select Russian entities and oligarchs, though it’s unclear what the U.S. would receive in return.
Trump has signaled openness to sanctions relief despite previously threatening harsher measures.
Talks between U.S. and Russian officials have intensified, with economic cooperation, including rare earth minerals, emerging as a key topic.
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Russian agent doing the Russian agent things.
Word has changed since cold war u know.
Yes, but Russia (or at least Putin) hasn’t.
Yeah, note instead of Russia being a communist authoritarian hellscape, it’s a capitalist authoritarian hellscape.
Very different
Isnt that what us is? Capitalist authoritarian hellscape?
The only thing that hasn’t changed since then is Russia
Trump is so l still a Russian asset. Doing russias bidding
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Wow! It’s amazing how most of the voters who voted for him grew up hating “commies” but suddenly Russia is their ally. Astonishing.
Russia used to be godless commies, but now it’s viewed as a white, Christian capitalist state with a strong leader. It’s not, but that’s the bullshit Fucker Carlson and other Russian sponsored propagandists have been spewing for the last decade or so.
I like godless commies more than what Russia is now. Sad development
Maybe that’s cause Russia hasn’t been communist in a long while.
It hasn’t stopped people from thinking that “communism” is a synonym for “bad”.
Does this mean Russia won the cold war
Fuck man…kinda feelin that way ey?
Sanctions (tariffs) Canada, Mexico, and China. Removes sanctions on Russia. What the fuck?
Trump is a foreign spy that managed to gain control of his enemies military.
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About 30 percent of Americans are treasonous cunts and the others have no idea what’s happening
Trump is malicious. Most Americans are just plain ignorant.
Ignorance has consequences tho.
And oh boy aren’t we seeing that right now
Only 22% voted for him, and a large portion of those fall into the ‘no idea what’s happening’ camp.
Just wait. In fucking Russia, civilians are not allowed to own an AK-47, AKM or any military based rifle. To take complete power, Krasnov will need to stomp on 2A.
The moron that tried used an AR-15 which shoots a tiny little bullet and not the appropriate calibre. If he had known anything about ballistics we wouldn’t be dealing with this.
That’s what you get with a bad education system.
I was taught how to consider bullet velocity and trajectory by the government when I was 20.
You probably also were taught to use at least a 30 calibre bullet like the M21 (which is what the Secret Service used to return fire)
I wasn’t being trained as an assassin.
Choosing the calibre wouldn’t be my prerogative.
What we were shooting with was just 7.62. Which now that I check equates to a .30cal actually. Never knew that, huh.
I did handle some .50cals, but not a sniper rifle, and I don’t know how sneaky I could be with a tripod mounted .50cal AA machine gun.
Tldr basic conscription but I did go the longer way voluntarily and am an NCO. I just recalled some basic ballistics lectures from your comment.
The AR bullet is less than one third the weight and much smaller than the 7.62 round which is why I said it was a shitty choice (and specifically why we still use Korea era armament to this day in the M 21, and 60, mini gun etc (NATO 7.62).
NATO 5.56 Is for ground troops and is designed more to incapacitate
7.62 and 5.56 is basically just a choice.
Thats what made us Finns joining NATO so hard (as in a side from all the politics and just practical matters), because we use 7.62 for all ground troops, especially because Russia uses it as well and wed like to be able to scavenge their ammo if they try any special military operations this way.
We’ve fucking tons of our own make of a AK variant, the RK. RK62 is decent but the sights are shit, RK95TP is awesome. That was my main weapon, had to keep a -62 for 2 months when I was in a poorer regiment for trainining. (Their boots sucked as well everyone from our brigade got a permit from the doc to wear holiday boots for normal service because they were just so much more comfy, like walking on air vs walking in glass.)
That 7.62 is not the same as NATO 7.62. The AK round has the diameter but not the length, weight or amount of gunpowder.
You are right that it doesn’t matter that much compared to 5.56, for a battle rifle, but NATO 7.62 is much more powerful and weighs a shitload more. It’s what I use to shoot 700m (and as I said above what US special forces still use as the standard sniper rifle M21)
Russia has been using 5.45 since the 70s (The ones with the brown magazine instead of black). I know the Czech SAR models were available in 5.56x45, 5.45x56, and 7.62x39 (NATO is 7.62x51)
You don’t have to be sneaky, just not fucking miss like the gormless cretin that last tried.
I mean, if you’re not sneaky and you’re setting up a .50cal turret where they’re holding a speech from POTUS, I’m pretty sure someone would have some notes on that.
I mean I’m Finnish, not American and I do understand American gun culture is pretty liberal, but is it that liberal?
Edit but oh boy would I fucking love to open up on that cunt on a stage. CHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOK
But he missed because the bullet he used was too small and too light and didn’t have a proper ballistic trajectory
Also, don’t aim for the head. Jesus. Aim for the chest.
And why only one shot? Keep pulling that fucking trigger.
No he was well within range for a 5.56. the problem was his scope wasn’t sighted in correctly and he sucked at shooting. https://youtu.be/ulh88aBI0iU At about the 5 minute mark he gets into the incorrect zero.
Just because it is in range doesn’t mean it’s appropriate
It was the wrong calibre for what he was doing. The wrong platform for his objective.
I can but 4” clay pigeons at 50m with a 9mm pistol but I should use something else.
Idk man it was less than 200 yards. The military does qualifications out to 500 with the same caliber. Right after it happened every journalist was out there saying it was an impossible shot, which it wouldn’t be for a reasonably skilled shooter. If you look it up most folks are saying 5.56 is effective out to 600 and a skilled shooter can group at 1,000 or more.
Idk why I’m arguing about this the kid was a useless shithead, just wish he’d done better I suppose.
That event was staged, look at Krasnov’s fucking ear. No scars!
Does anyone else remember the 2016 debate with Hillary Clinton where she accused Trump of being a puppet for Putin, and he interrupted “No puppet, no puppet! You’re the puppet!”
Or when Alnur Mussayev, the Russian officer who served in the KGB’s 6th Directorate in Moscow, said that Trump was recruited as a Russian agent in 1987, under the codename “Krasnov”, when he went to Russia for a “real estate project”.
Remember when the SS lost all of their communication records from Jan 6th?
Europe please be ready. My tea leaves are pointing towards the use of nuclear weapons in Europe while the us is distracted with civil unrest.
Reward your friends, punish your enemies. Trump showing that he views Russia as an ally, and Canada as a threat.
This feels suspiciously like traitorous activity.
Is it because of the way it is?
If the US does lift sanctions on select oligarchs from Russia, I think the EU should consider sanctions on select oligarchs from the US.
I can suggest one such oligarch, Elon Musk - he’s associated with wielding illegitimate power, manipulating social media and interfering in elections (both national and primary) using wealth.
How about freezing his assets? I don’t think he has taken the prudent step of collecting all his money and stowing it under Donald’s presidential seat.
String up the traitors
Get ready for weapon sales for Russia!
the secret service will be extra busy.
I’m surprised it took this long. He’s already selling U.S. citizenship to Russian mobsters, so why not let them run wild and finish what you started - destroying America.
…and inviting Russians into the oval to watch and report to president Putin as he bullies Zelenskyy. Good job, Murca, and good job, VP Krasnov. Vance did a good job too.
And another piece of evidence that Trump is nothing but a Russian agent in the Oval Office. When will the US media finally start to ask about this?
And another piece of evidence that Trump is nothing but a Russian agent in the Oval Office.
Russian puppet, FTFY.
Or “asset”. He may do what Putin wants, but he’s not out there decoding messages or leaving dead drops! Yeah, I watched The Americans on FX…
Great show!
No puppet! No puppet! Yer the puppet! —Puppet in Chief
they did that a long time ago
In a few small outlets. I have not seen a big headline on the front page of a national paper, or an opener on the nayor TV networks news.
i believe it was called the Mueller special counsel investigation
This is so wrong. I hate what we’ve become. As an American, I’ve never been proud of what this country has done but I’ve never been THIS ashamed. I feel like a joke.
There’s no more room for nuance. We (that is, our government) are the baddies. Straight up.
So let’s stop beating around the bush at what has to be done, violent revolution is the only path to freedom.
I’m approximately 2,700 miles from DC, so I’ll need several days’ notice for when the violent insurrection will be.
Can it wait a few more months? I need a bit more PTO. Rent doesn’t pay itself.
This is kind of an underrated sentiment. I think a big reason there aren’t more protests and revolting is because we really can’t afford it. The financial impact on each individual can be significant. Employers don’t support time off for anything of a political nature, not even voting.
I don’t believe this situation isn’t intentional. It seems that countries who take two hour lunch breaks and don’t let their jobs dictate their entire lives are far more likely to protest en mass.
The BLM protests were the largest in US history. The fact is that most Americans have been coddled by a stable democracy and don’t care if they lose it, as long as someone puts a buck in their pocket. They think it won’t affect them because Congress bad, both sides bad.
Of the ones who do care, they think protests dOn’T wOrK because BLM or the Palestine protests failed. Completely ignoring the fact that other civil resistance movements have succeeded and are historically more successful than armed revolts against the upper class.
Thing is, saving that house now by forsaking the country could lead to that same door being kicked down by the feds in just a few months for that liberal Facebook post you made calling trans people human. Get in the Gitmo van.
There is plenty of room for nuance, there’s just no nuance to be had.
To help Putin, he is bankrupting USA just like how he bankrupted his casinos.
So rise up against tyranny.
When Ukraine’s president surprisingly shifted towards Russia, the people engaged in civil disobedience until there was a new president.
What will the US do?
Nothing. 50% of the country loves their strongman president more than freedom or common sense
Less than a third of eligible voters voted for Trump.
“In reality, there is no such thing as not voting: you either vote by voting, or you vote by staying home and tacitly doubling the value of some Diehard’s vote.”
~ David Foster Wallace
60% of Murca voted for him.
Less than less than a third voted against him.
And the other 50% thinks that the best avenue for social change is to attack people who don’t like the latest Disney movie.
Oh look, another Trumper obsessed with culture war issues that no one else cares about… I’m so surprised.
Exhibit B.
You’re framing that as a difference in taste when in reality it was a difference in having shitty bigoted views or not. Haven’t you fuckers muddied the water enough?
Exhibit A.
A US backed coup is not “civil disobedience” lol
kindly, Fuck off.
A couple of suspicious sounding phone calls intercepted from an embassy, when every embassy in the country was having their own discussions about their preferred outcome to the collapse of a government, do not influence millions of Ukrainians who know their own country and government, to take to the streets in a riot over being betrayed over something they voted for.
Shut the fuck up Ivan
