• whitecapstromgard@sh.itjust.worksOP
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      Apple and privacy can’t be in the same sentence. It does not make sense.

      This is just retaliation to the Huawei ban, and to America’s efforts to hurt China’s chip industry.

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        While Apple may not be perfect when it comes to privacy, they are objectively better for privacy than just about every other manufacturer as it’s profitable to their business model

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          Based on what? Apple sells a closed source device. Neither you nor me know how much data they retain or share with the government.

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            I know what their privacy policy states and that they can’t (legally) lie in it (to my knowledge). I also know that they are not an advertising company primarily and that the competition is. That gives other companies far more reason to collect data. Apple on the other hand benefits from being more privacy focused as a selling point. Overall, Apple is far more trustworthy imo when it comes to privacy than others

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              Those privacy policies aren’t worth the paper they are written on.

              It takes just one FISA letter to compromise Apple. In fact, there is legislation like the Cloud Act that forces US tech companies to betray our trust.

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                Regardless of that, Apple has at the very least put effort into adding privacy features. Google on the other hand is literally the company that does the advertising. Google’s main business is advertising. I said very clearly that Apple may not be perfect, but they’re objectively more privacy focused than others whether that’s for your gain or theirs

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                  Apple sells ads and it’s ad business is expected to grow. They have literally kicked everyone out and are now the sole source of information on iPhone users.

                  Another thing I’dime to know does Apple buy data?

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                  Android is open source. Apple’s stuff is not. Privacy and closed source can not be in the same sentence.

                  You can at least customize Android to get rid of offending stuff. You can’t even pick your web browser on Apple.

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              You don’t know if they really do what they say they do. This also doesn’t go for stock android with GMS. The best privacy OS is AOSP. I also don’t know how Apple is more trustworthy, they don’t open source anything and you can’t sideload apps unless you go through some jailbreaking process which has its own risks. Android at least does allow you to sideload apks.

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                Side loading has absolutely nothing to do with privacy. My main point is that Apple is more privacy friendly than others

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                    Primarily Google as Google is the only other major operating system developer in the mobile market and is also the biggest advertising company in the world