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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/22392872

The word futa or futanari is a term I unfortunately see used against trans women and actual intersex people. It is a term which originated in porn and anime to describe someone with both types of genitals, usually though it just refers to someone who looks feminine and has a penis. So it’s no surprise it’s very often used to describe non-op trans women primarily. Because it’s often used in porn it carries strong connotations of sexualization and dehumanization, it reduces the person being called futa to an object of sexual desire and doesn’t respect them as a person.

This term is extremely disrespectful and really has no place being used, especially in reference to trans women. Additionally because of its relation to porn people who use it will almost certainly be seen as chasers.

  • Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    13·
    9 hours ago

    Isn’t a slur a term used in a derogatory sense? Intentions mean everything. If the intention is to try and define, they can be corrected. If the intention is to shame or ridicule one’s existence, it is a slur.

    Anyone that uses ‘futa’ to describe a trans woman is very poorly informed.

  • Squished Fly (she/they)@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    3·
    8 hours ago

    Probably a hot take but I disagree, it’s the same issue as the whole “trap is a slur” situation that I also disagree with.

    The issue is that, if the word is used against a trans woman without bottom surgery, it’s a term that might not fit or be appropriate. With trap, it’s just straight up misgendering, but it might fit someone who still identifies as male. With futa, (if I underatand your point) it might carry a lot of sexual meaning with it which could be inappropriate.

    It’s an issue with “who uses the word to describe who”, and therefore isn’t in my eyes a slur.

    Edit: clarification

    • First Majestic Comet@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOPEnglish
      12·
      8 hours ago

      When one is using it on themselves like you describe it is a form of reclamation. Same goes with trap.

      Though I disagree with you and find “trap” to be uber offensive even as someone who is also a femboy, because it implies I pretend to be a woman to trick people, really gross.

      You are spot on that these words are mainly offensive when used against people pejoratively, in that context they absolutely are slurs.

  • Of the Air (cele/celes)@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    5·
    10 hours ago

    Personally we have a hard time seeing it as a slur on the level as other ones used for queer or trans people, though feel free to clarify on this.

    However, it is absolutely wrong both morally/ethically and scientifically most of the time and it bothers us to no end, because for most people it just doesn’t fit the lived reality or if it does we apologise but it is absolutely fetishising those of us who are trans femme and/or intersex and that therein we feel lays the crux of the problem — fetishisation.

    Those who are trans femme and/or are intersex do not exist just for others to get off to.

    We also notice it is a problem in a misogynstic sense too as porn artists choose to do it in some cases to characters who have certain gentials in canon and are fine with those genitals but the artists do not think that those people, especially those presenting as femme, can have those genitals and be powerful or in wlw relationships or relationships with femme presenting people, other people with those same genitals or perhaps just in general if they are strong, not submissive or confident in some way.

    Please let us know if anything we have said here isn’t understandable or crosses some line.