Cant imagine making 30 k a year and having to pay even 1600 in taxes. This is saying it will increase that much.

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    “LiBruL pROpAgAnDa!”

    For fucks sake. It’s not propaganda to think violence isn’t the answer to political problems. Have you never heard the saying “two wrongs don’t make a right?” If not, learn it, if so, them tire being willfully obtuse.

    And you know damn well I didn’t mean “animals” to imply actual animals. It’s a term. How about you replace “animals” with “losers,” or “assholes” instead.

    Lastly, I tend to avoid arguing with smug and arrogant people that try and rub pseudo-intellectual bullshit all over everything. So…

    Have a day.

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      It’s propaganda to think that violence isnt a last resort. I hope you never in a position to need self-defense because you seem to not believe in it.

      Why would I assume otherwise? I would never call another group of people “animals,” that’s dehumanizing. Why would I assume someone who is nonviolence is okay with equating other people to animals, is kindness and respect not a core belief of nonviolence?

      Quick to call others smug and arrogant because you can’t have a dialogue.

      I hope you break out of your cognitive dissonance chamber one day.

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        If one thinks violence is the only way to solve your problems. They are no more than an animal. This is my belief. I won’t apologize because you disagree. Evolution has allowed us to solve our problems without the need to kill people.

        Oh and…

        This isn’t cognitive dissonance. I know it’s a nice sounding big word that makes you sound smart, but it doesn’t apply here. My actions and my belief are perfectly aligned, so… Maybe learn what it means before you toss that one around, mmmkay?

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          Did you miss the last resort part of my comment? No one is saying it’s the only way, you’re saying it’s not a way whatsoever and I’m saying it’s a way and one that should be avoided.

          People are already being exposed to violence in the system. It’s already happening. Why are you for that?

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            I’m saying it’s not even a last resort. Because there are many ways to fix problems without violence.

            And please don’t edit my statement to mean anything other than what I said. I’m not ”for” anything here. I’ve said nothing that even remotely lends to it. So maybe your reading comprehension issue stems from the idea that you try and make things equate to what you want them to instead of what reality shows they do.

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                So… in my opinion, and my opinion only- what do I suggest we do In this specific situation where America is seemingly fucked with no way out?

                I suggest we just accept it, and hope that in four years the ninety million some-odd fucking assholes that didn’t want to listen to anyone in November decide to get off their smug and entitled asses and participate this time- because this could have easily been avoided.

                We had plenty of warning. We all saw this coming from miles away. We were TOLD what was going to happen. And there were no excuses.

                So yeah. I’d say that we all reap what has been sewn by the smug and entitled that chose to not take the warnings seriously. I’d say the we collectively sleep in the bed they made for us. And while we all suffer together- I’d say they should not avert their eyes or turn their head when the oppressive weight of this authoritarian dictatorship begins to press down HARD on them, their loved ones, and their fellow citizens. Because they definitely share in the blame for it happening-

                Nothing is happening now that they didn’t knowingly allow to happen. So we have naught to do but watch as any good that remains in America begins to rot away- with, and because of the bad like a barrel of abandoned apples.

                And as for a violent response?

                Yeah. I don’t understand how this isn’t more fundamentally understood, but let’s cover it anyway:

                It’s not 1775 anymore. Things have changed.

                ANY violent response to Краснов and his administration can and probably will- only result in a colossal retaliatory response that will cost FAR too many innocent lives to be lost and all but guarantee a temporary to permanent military takeover and occupation of every state in the nation.

                I sincerely hope that anyone thinking to organize a violent response to Краснов look up what martial law means, and make their peace with the fact that this is what they’re going to bring down on every citizen in this country.

                Because that’s where we are headed.

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                  Sorry we already tried nothing I said new ideas.

                  And of course you’re pro-violence if your idea of nonviolence is “let them kill.”