• iriyan@lemmy.ml
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    4 days ago

    Again, this is an indictment of our shitty society. We should be banning dirty engines too - electric motors can achieve the same level of torque (and greater!) without pumping out cancer causing pollutants that stink up our world.

    Ignorance doesn’t clean the air, with the average country still making electric power and transmitting it in long distances in the most inefficient and expensive ways, 86% is produced by burning fossil fuels, and this doesn’t include the risk of nuclear power, although clean till you deal with storing depleted uranium. Urban yuppies have been sold the illusion their electric car doesn’t pollute, a 60s Rambler running still doesn’t pollute, a 5y old electric vehicle in the dumpsite near you will fill the area with toxins. Electricity produced, transmitted, used for charging at less than 40% efficiency, pollutes more than a 60s gas-gassler.

    But electric, thermoplastics, vehicle AND OIL/COAL industries need to sell a myth to the urban yuppie to accessorize in something “different” that will stick out and make them feel superior. The upcoming huge environmental hazzard is lack of recycling of useless electric vehicles and their batteries, the enormous amount of excess electricity produced to cover transportation with electricity, and the economic crisis that will result from this irresponsible madness governments are allowing to take place.

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      4 days ago

      We should ban private car ownership, no question. That would do a hell of a lot to improve air quality. People can take a train, ride a bike, or work remotely.

      We’re still going to need bulldozers, though.

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        4 days ago

        Yes, at 900hp 750KW, I can imagine a farmer using 2MWh of charging to get 3-4 hrs of work done and this would be by providing this power all the way out to each farm, or remote mining site, or rural road construction.

        I’ve written this example before to those that get it: Take a 6hp engine produce electricity at 3KW, power your bike at 3KW, instead of powering it with the 6hp engine. Now take this power send it through two thick copper wires 200mi away and back (it takes 2) and on its way back charge two 4KWh batteries, to power your 3KW bike, and then go riding for an hour. This is your clean efficient power. The myth is the powerplant burning coal/diesel/nat.gas is so efficient that its 6hp motor makes 10KW power ( :) ) and there are no losses of power using cables over hundreds of miles, no losses due to heat charging, and 100% of the charge is put to work in your vehicle. And this will save the environment.

        It doesn’t work that way and if you had high-school physics you should have known better.