• Wispy2891@lemmy.world
    581·
    2 days ago

    What? I searched for it and it’s not a joke? There’s an actual Faith office in the USA? That’s something you would expect in Iran, not the USA

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
      151·
      2 days ago

      We talking Iran, the secular democracy prior to 1953? Or Iran, the US backed military dictatorship that lasted until 1979? Or Iran, the Revolutionary Socialist Government that imploded in the run up to the US instigated Iran-Iraq War?

      Oh oh oh. I gotcha. We’re talking about the modern theocratically controlled Kingdom of Saud uh… Hinduvista Federal government of India um… Revanchist Anti-Communist Christian Cult of the Park/Yoon government er… Apartheid State of Israel oh, here it is, Ayatollah’s Iran.

      Damn, can’t believe America would end up like Evil Foreign Country, instead of a model liberal secular government we traditionally support.

    • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      1·
      1 day ago

      Faith office in the USA? That’s something you would expect in Iran, not the USA

      Iran… Or Saudi Arabia… Imperial drones always choose to attack one but not the other.

      Personally I’m not at all surprised to see it here.

  • Starb3an@lemmy.world
    42·
    2 days ago

    I remember watching a skit where someone time travels like 50-100 years into the future to see if all the problems get solved, war, climate change, etc. the guy assures everything fine and reveals the solution. The rapture came and took all of the religious people away. Everyone left was easily able to work together to solve all the issues.

  • ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.orgEnglish
    392·
    2 days ago

    100s of 1000s of $$

    This is cursed and looks like “hundreds or thousands of dollars” at a glance. Just say “100,000s of dollars” or “$200,000+”.

  • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
    30·
    2 days ago

    married a member of the rock band Journey

    Is that why she didn’t stop believing? (I’m guessing she never started, but…)

  • BigMacHole@lemm.ee
    11·
    2 days ago

    The Founding Fathers were VERY CLEAR when it came to Protecting Mass Child Murderers but VERY MURKY when it came to Separation of Church and State!

  • Zloubida@lemmy.world
    159·
    2 days ago

    There are many possible points of disagreement within Christianity because, like it or not, the Bible is unclear and even contradicts itself on many subjects (and this is a Christian saying this). But prosperity theology is so clearly the opposite of everything in the Bible that any self-respecting evangelical should ostracize it. That they don’t is the proof that the gospel is not what many evangelicals are interested in.

    • inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world
      69·
      2 days ago

      What she cites the bible for

      Though she clarified that donations wouldn’t actually go to help those infected, White used medical imagery to add urgency to her fundraising plea during a pandemic. “Every single day we are a hospital to the sick, not necessarily the physically sick,” she said. “But we are a hospital for those who are soul sick, those who are spiritually sick.” White went on to suggest that contributors offer a $91 donation, citing Psalm 91, or “maybe $9 or whatever God tells you to do.”

      What I cite the bible for

      Matthew 21:12-13 Jesus entered the temple courts and drove out all who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves. “It is written,” he said to them, “‘My house will be called a house of prayer,’ but you are making it ‘a den of robbers.’

    • Empricorn@feddit.nlEnglish
      8·
      2 days ago

      To reinforce this, Jesus didn’t just say it was hard for a rich person to get into heaven, he said “And again I say unto you, it is easier for a camel to go through a needle’s eye, than for a rich [person] to enter into the kingdom of God.” --Matthew 19:23-26

      Personally, I think this is specifically referring to the level of greed that it requires to hoard enough wealth to become (and stay) a billionaire while the world suffers. It’s important to understand that this is our Bible, the foundation of everything Christianity is supposed to be about. These freaks have twisted it so much, it’s unrecognizable…

      • clutchtwopointzero@lemmy.world
        7·
        2 days ago

        No issues with you comment, but I find it disheartening that leadership in churches around the country do not condemn what is happening

        • Empricorn@feddit.nlEnglish
          3·
          2 days ago

          That’s how far we’ve come. I know many here are vehemently opposed to any faith-based belief system, and that’s 100% your right. But churches and religious leadership promoting Trump and hate are shitting on everything God said in the one book he gave us. Modern Christians should read the Bible and find a church that follows it. If possible. Not the other way around…

      • Klear@lemmy.world
        11·
        2 days ago

        It goes on though:

        When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved?

        But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.

        So what I’m getting is “everyone goes to heaven, but don’t say that too loud or people will be dicks to each other”.

    • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
      16·
      2 days ago

      You might enjoy reading some of the works of Bart Ehrman. I’m an atheist who has been reading a lot about Jesus and the early church (first three centuries). I would recommend, How Jesus Became God.

      Anyway, good for you for recognizing prosperity bs for what it is.

      • ChromaticSnail@piefed.socialEnglish
        11·
        2 days ago

        Ehrman is great, as are his books and his podcast (which is called “Misquoting Jesus”). He’s one of the most objective mainstream New Testament scholars (in the field of textual criticism), and he doesn’t try to advance any agenda. He states clearly whether his points are the consensus of non-evangelical scholars, or whether he’s in the minority (which is rarely); whether other scholars disagree with him (and why); what the evangelical scholars say, etc. He doesn’t encourage either atheism or religion; he’s simply a textual criticism scholar.

      • Snowclone@lemmy.world
        7·
        2 days ago

        It’s literally a sin in many sects, not to say those sects aren’t entirely hypocritical on the matter, but trading priestly duties for money is explicitly a sin in a lot of Abrahamic religions.

        • bobs_monkey@lemm.ee
          4·
          2 days ago

          Gestures broadly at the pastors with their AMG Mercedes/M BMWs, mansions, private planes, helicopters, beach/mountain vacation houses, etc…"

      • Zloubida@lemmy.world
        1·
        2 days ago

        I like Ehrman. I think Jesus had, before the Resurrection, no clear idea of who/what he was and that what Ehrman shows is how the early church not invented but discovered the divinity of Jesus.

      • Zloubida@lemmy.world
        5·
        2 days ago

        Calvin was totally opposed to this kind of theology. I presume you’re referencing to Weber; but if you read The Protestant Ethic closely, he didn’t speak about mainstream Calvinism of his time, but German puritanism, which was opposed by mainstream Calvinism.