Appreciate the reply. I should really learn how to do the quote thing your doing so my reply can be more accurately interpreted.
Anyways, I want to focus on your question. The obvious answer is communism, socialism, ect. A concept alot of people don’t understand is that Marxist theory does not see capitalism as this evil thing that has invaded our lives, but as a natural progression of human economic development. Marx says that the formation of a communist society must first progress through capitalism and industrialization as the benefits of those systems set the stage that makes communism even feasible.
The part that gets people confused is that outside of theory and in real life, never has a industrialized capitalist society progressed to communism. Instead all attempts were pre industrial feudal or near feudal revolutions who attempted to leap frog over capitalism straight to industrial communism.
This history has resulted in many many different forms of communist thought. Maoist, leninists, trotskyist, stalinists, and so on. But we are not talking about those. I want to hard focus in on Marxism as just a foundational idea, because holy shit you have no clue how influential Marx was to like, our understanding of sociology and economics.
That is all to say, I do not have a silver bullet answer for you on “which system” and “what exactly that looks like”. There’s a lot of different possibilities, and as we get increasingly into late stage capitalism, our ideas about communism change to meet the world we know. Marx didn’t know what a fucking Uber eats was ya know lol.
The best answer I have for you is to genuinely and with an open mind free of pre considered notions (as best you can for that impossible task) try and read The Communist Manifesto. I guarantee it’s not the book you think it is.
However please also temper expectations. It’s a foundational text. Talking about some base concepts. It will not hand you a silver bullet but Instead will just fill you with the feeling that we can do better than what we currently are. I am going to put a quote from disco Elysium, wonderful game, in here about the feeling of understanding this and what it can do to you.
“0.000% of Communism has been built. Evil child-murdering billionaires still rule the world with a shit-eating grin. All he has managed to do is make himself sad. He is starting to suspect Kras Mazov (game stand in for Karl Marx) fucked him over personally with his socio-economic theory. It has, however, made him into a very, very smart boy with something like a university degree in Truth. Instead of building Communism, he now builds a precise model of this grotesque, duplicitous world.”
Again I am quite busy so a reply will take me some time, just wanted to let you know again.
As for the quotes. You can use “>” without the quotation marks. Followed by a space and the text you’re quoting. For more you can search the internet for Markdown syntax. You can do italics and bold and lots more.
Appreciate the reply. I should really learn how to do the quote thing your doing so my reply can be more accurately interpreted.
Anyways, I want to focus on your question. The obvious answer is communism, socialism, ect. A concept alot of people don’t understand is that Marxist theory does not see capitalism as this evil thing that has invaded our lives, but as a natural progression of human economic development. Marx says that the formation of a communist society must first progress through capitalism and industrialization as the benefits of those systems set the stage that makes communism even feasible.
The part that gets people confused is that outside of theory and in real life, never has a industrialized capitalist society progressed to communism. Instead all attempts were pre industrial feudal or near feudal revolutions who attempted to leap frog over capitalism straight to industrial communism.
This history has resulted in many many different forms of communist thought. Maoist, leninists, trotskyist, stalinists, and so on. But we are not talking about those. I want to hard focus in on Marxism as just a foundational idea, because holy shit you have no clue how influential Marx was to like, our understanding of sociology and economics.
That is all to say, I do not have a silver bullet answer for you on “which system” and “what exactly that looks like”. There’s a lot of different possibilities, and as we get increasingly into late stage capitalism, our ideas about communism change to meet the world we know. Marx didn’t know what a fucking Uber eats was ya know lol.
The best answer I have for you is to genuinely and with an open mind free of pre considered notions (as best you can for that impossible task) try and read The Communist Manifesto. I guarantee it’s not the book you think it is.
However please also temper expectations. It’s a foundational text. Talking about some base concepts. It will not hand you a silver bullet but Instead will just fill you with the feeling that we can do better than what we currently are. I am going to put a quote from disco Elysium, wonderful game, in here about the feeling of understanding this and what it can do to you.
“0.000% of Communism has been built. Evil child-murdering billionaires still rule the world with a shit-eating grin. All he has managed to do is make himself sad. He is starting to suspect Kras Mazov (game stand in for Karl Marx) fucked him over personally with his socio-economic theory. It has, however, made him into a very, very smart boy with something like a university degree in Truth. Instead of building Communism, he now builds a precise model of this grotesque, duplicitous world.”
Again I am quite busy so a reply will take me some time, just wanted to let you know again.
As for the quotes. You can use “>” without the quotation marks. Followed by a space and the text you’re quoting. For more you can search the internet for Markdown syntax. You can do italics and bold and lots more.
Much appreciated for the tutorial. I will try to use that going forward. Once again, take your time. I will be here.