Did you notice how more than half of voters voted for trump?
Mainstream America doesn’t agree with us on the fascist accusations. Screaming about things with which the majority of voters disagree with us on isn’t a recipe for success and makes them less likely to believe us in future.
Calling the Republicans nazis is going to convince zero people they are nazis. What it will do is make all those Biden-Trump voters, or reluctant republican voters discount what we say when it matters.
If we scream nazi when Elon trolls us, people are much less likely to care when we scream it again about detention centres.
Unlike you, I understand the danger this administration poses and the importance of addressing it in a meaningful way. Letting Musk troll us into throwing temper tantrums ain’t helping.
Whether or not people are duped into believing something wrong doesn’t make it more right.
It’s still wrong, it’s still a lie, it’s still incorrect.
The truth of our world will always find its way back to the light, because the people who strive for truth have a will and ambition like no other, regardless of whether they’re wrong at the moment. A few may keep themselves in perpetual darkness, but they know in their heart of hearts that reality. It’s why they so fervently clutch for the phantom of a truth before pulling a Luigi.
More than half of voters did not vote at all this election. Of those who did, both republicans and democrats got less total votes compared to last time.
It’s not that American voters don’t believe that republicans are fascist, I think many are aware of that. They also see the fascist tendencies of Dems, and recognize that for 50 years now, Dems haven’t really done much to improve their material living conditions either. If Dems ever have a chance to do so, there’s always several corpo dems ready to torpedo bills over some nonsense, or the senate parliamentarian won’t let them, or some other bs.
Trump at least said things to his base indicating he recognizes the pain points and promised to address them - even if those more discerning among us realize he will do the opposite, the important political aspect is that he had the right optics by addressing the real issues for the working class. Dems could not be bothered to do this, and instead insisted they wouldn’t change anything, again. And further, made it a point to team up with neocons like Liz Cheney, and kiss billionaire asses like Mark Cuban’s.
So, if you have 2 fash candidates, both courting their rich donors, and one is saying more of the same, while the other is campaigning on fixing your issues and is positioned as a political outsider…why not vote for possible change? Don’t try to blame the voters - the blame for this outcome rests solely with the DNC, and the corruption endemic to politics via legalized bribery.
Lastly, look what happened on day one. A mile long list of executive orders, many of which targeted the issues Trump’s base wanted. Sure, some might not stick, but he actually delivered on those campaign promises on day 1 just like he said he would. When was the last time a democrat ever did something like that for their voters?
Of them, the only one that does anyone any good is recognizing the Lumbees (Why wasn’t that already a thing? Literally two of my best friends are Lumbee brothers, one sells me weed and the other geeks out about Sonic with me)
About 60% of eligible voters, votes in the 2024 elections (slightly more or less depending on methodology.)
But I think your larger conclusions about voters deciding both parties are fascist is unsupported by reality or evidence.
I’d agree they’ve grown disenchanted but that’s very different. Unless, we’re just in this new stage where anything we don’t like is labelled as fascist.
Did you notice how more than half of voters voted for trump?
Mainstream America doesn’t agree with us on the fascist accusations. Screaming about things with which the majority of voters disagree with us on isn’t a recipe for success and makes them less likely to believe us in future.
So, by this godawful trash logic, you’re saying 1930s era Germans shouldn’t have spoken up, because the majority of Germans were onboard with fascism?
Please seek a better education.
No… You are absolutely missing the point.
Calling the Republicans nazis is going to convince zero people they are nazis. What it will do is make all those Biden-Trump voters, or reluctant republican voters discount what we say when it matters.
If we scream nazi when Elon trolls us, people are much less likely to care when we scream it again about detention centres.
Unlike you, I understand the danger this administration poses and the importance of addressing it in a meaningful way. Letting Musk troll us into throwing temper tantrums ain’t helping.
No it convinced me when he did their salute. The one they used as callsign when massacring people by race. Nobody needs convincing. You need action
A wrong answer is not a meaningless one.
Whether or not people are duped into believing something wrong doesn’t make it more right.
It’s still wrong, it’s still a lie, it’s still incorrect.
The truth of our world will always find its way back to the light, because the people who strive for truth have a will and ambition like no other, regardless of whether they’re wrong at the moment. A few may keep themselves in perpetual darkness, but they know in their heart of hearts that reality. It’s why they so fervently clutch for the phantom of a truth before pulling a Luigi.
Did you mean to comment on something else?
Just want to make sure you’ve got the right post.
More than half of voters did not vote at all this election. Of those who did, both republicans and democrats got less total votes compared to last time.
It’s not that American voters don’t believe that republicans are fascist, I think many are aware of that. They also see the fascist tendencies of Dems, and recognize that for 50 years now, Dems haven’t really done much to improve their material living conditions either. If Dems ever have a chance to do so, there’s always several corpo dems ready to torpedo bills over some nonsense, or the senate parliamentarian won’t let them, or some other bs.
Trump at least said things to his base indicating he recognizes the pain points and promised to address them - even if those more discerning among us realize he will do the opposite, the important political aspect is that he had the right optics by addressing the real issues for the working class. Dems could not be bothered to do this, and instead insisted they wouldn’t change anything, again. And further, made it a point to team up with neocons like Liz Cheney, and kiss billionaire asses like Mark Cuban’s.
So, if you have 2 fash candidates, both courting their rich donors, and one is saying more of the same, while the other is campaigning on fixing your issues and is positioned as a political outsider…why not vote for possible change? Don’t try to blame the voters - the blame for this outcome rests solely with the DNC, and the corruption endemic to politics via legalized bribery.
Lastly, look what happened on day one. A mile long list of executive orders, many of which targeted the issues Trump’s base wanted. Sure, some might not stick, but he actually delivered on those campaign promises on day 1 just like he said he would. When was the last time a democrat ever did something like that for their voters?
Of them, the only one that does anyone any good is recognizing the Lumbees (Why wasn’t that already a thing? Literally two of my best friends are Lumbee brothers, one sells me weed and the other geeks out about Sonic with me)
About 60% of eligible voters, votes in the 2024 elections (slightly more or less depending on methodology.)
But I think your larger conclusions about voters deciding both parties are fascist is unsupported by reality or evidence.
I’d agree they’ve grown disenchanted but that’s very different. Unless, we’re just in this new stage where anything we don’t like is labelled as fascist.