It’s a good point about not taking the bait of debating with the far right about their nonsense, but I’m not convinced it quite counts as trolling when, being a proud Nazi, you get up in front of a bunch of Nazis and do Nazi salute to show them you are a Nazi. I guess the trolling is what he did afterwards.
Yeah, it’s never been as a troll, but as a sign of solidarity and beacon for others. Continuing to treat this like a trolling is continuing to give cover for Nazi/fascist behavior happening more and more in the light of day.
The Alt Right Pipeline depends on edgy immature people ironically saying edgy stuff for dopamine hits until they are effectively trained to repeat the edgy stuff unironically.
When they put away the dog whistles and just come out as evil fascists then it causes a lot of their supporters to have a “are we the baddies?” moment
I really hope you’re right.
Yeah, that almost seems like giving them too much credit. I hope I’m wrong though.
How is only one “main stream” American News source calling it what it was “falling flat”?
The author is comparing it to previous trolling attempts, and how this one isn’t being picked up except by neo-nazi groups.
Why are we calling a Nazi paying homage to his fellow Nazis “trolling”?
It’s how they see it, apparently. Same with all the “OK” hand gestures. It’s a dog whistle intended to empower those that agree with this crap to start doing it publicly. “If Elon can do it, so can I”…etc.
It’s generally great when people show who they really are, so it’s possible to know how to properly respond. PUNCH NAZIS! RIDICULE FASCISTS!
Wrong you shouldnt punch Nazis thats uncivilized. You should show them classical civility and lash them to a fucking cross. Sic Semper Tyrannis
Sure, but not everyone carries around a cross for just such an occasion. Everyone’s got their fists on them, though (well, unless you’re an amputee – in that case, bite Nazis.)
Telephone poles make great substitutes.
The article is fairly good, the headline only really makes sense after reading the article.
Not a great headline.
I’m so glad you commented this. Yes, great article with a terrible headline
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Fuck off nazi.
absolutely fascinating that this user was trying to talk up Adolf Hitler’s economic record yesterday
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I read the whole conversation, including the bits where you got mad at the other person for their source not being good enough, and then also their other sources for being in German, while providing literally zero sources of your own.
I even agree Hitler did, very occasionally and often for bad reasons, do a couple of actually good things. Like arming Ethiopia against the Italians. But nobody asked you to use Hitler as an example and the question absolutely did not require it. Fucking hell you could have even picked Winston Churchill deciding to lead the fight againt the Nazis, he was a Conservative. I’m bringing it up because I think it illustrates that maybe your judgement on anything about the Nazis isn’t that reliable
Yeah, but his dad has a history degree (and probably like 6 black belts) so check-mate.
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Blah blah, you’re still in this thread apologizing for what everyone with eyes knows was a blatant fascist dogwhistle. You can rationalize all you want, but these actions are all supportive of fascists.
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Maybe we don’t need to make concessions on behalf of fucking Hitler when we’re dealing with the actual return of fascism on a world scale. A real ‘read the room’ kind of thing.
Literally that entire conversation was about how you people are incapable of having any nuance whatsoever.
And here you are, unable to read the room and getting gaslit by the Nazis into thinking that a Nazi salute wasn’t a Nazi salute. GTFO.
I hope your carbon is recycled into something more beneficial to the world someday. Like an apricot, maybe.
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Not to pile on, but there is actually a service where you can pick which tree you fertilize, my sister has it in her will that she wants to grow her favorite tree when she dies. Hopefully that service is still around at that point.
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Maybe you can compromise and illegally fertilize a tree without permission, hehe.
The neo Nazis think he was, and that was his audience. That’s enough for me.
I just can’t imagine why people think it’s a Nazi salute…oh wait,
Yeah, if it was anything else, it wouldn’t be so forceful. No matter how socially awkward he is. Stiff I can get as being accidental from being nervous, but putting so much energy into it… that doesn’t happen unintentionally. If his gesture was affected by anxiety, nervousness, or lack of practice, it would have been less energetic than if he was confident and practiced at it.
There is no possible way he meant anything else, all efforts afterwards to minimize it are hedging his bets and gaslighting.
I am Autistic and work with many other autistic and neurodivergent people, and this is not that at all. It was no accident, it looked exactly how he intended it to look, he practiced that in a mirror, alot. The hedging heart thing was also practiced.
I wouldn’t be surprised to find out he had a bet going with someone that he could do it and get away with it. I don’t live in a bubble, I do hang out with conservatives, this is exactly the thing they think is funny or cool.
That was the dumbest fucking video I’ve watched in recent memory. “My heart goes out to you”? Get the fuck out lol
A tiktok link, defending a Nazi. Here. Are you lost, mate?
the nazi did the fucking nazi salute twice, so that there were no doubts about it
“I’m all for people stimming in ways that make people uncomfortable”
Oh fuck entirely off. If that person really is autistic, she’s an insult to the rest of us who don’t stim by fucking throwing up Nazi salutes.
You can akshually this as a Roman salute, but it’s still a fucking fascist salute from a man with a long history of Nazi signalling.
Stop carrying water for Nazis.
I’m very disappointed you registered an account and in your inability to grasp reality. Welcome to my block list.
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I think that is an interesting view on consent, and I am glad to not share it.
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Well I am taking what you are saying as an implied superior moral position. That engaging with anyone and everyone is ethically or morally superior to not. It follows that one who does not consent to that standard is somehow “doing it wrong”. It’s like some internalized guilt over exercising your own agency to ignore or block people. Wild.
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Not having to talk to Nazis doesn’t mean you’re in an echo chamber. I hope that clears up the misunderstanding here.
You won’t be missed scumfuck.
It definitely is