TMR put this up on their Facebook asking who has to give way, but that’s too easy. A much more complicated question is: what does the law say around indicating?

I’ve seen people say only blue must indicate, others say both must indicate, and yet others say neither must indicate. Which is correct?

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    22 hours ago

    Sauce

    That’s a user-friendly advisory article. I’m asking what’s specifically in the legislation. It also doesn’t actually say anything about indicating, only implies it in the graphics. No text or speech ever discusses indication.

    Blues lane is ending

    No, two lanes are merging. That’s why this is different to a situation where one lane ends, in which case the continuing lane always has right of way.

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      It is also supplemental to the drivers manual, which the test to get your license is based on. Get enough of these wrong and you fail, no license.

      No, two lanes are merging

      Sorry, but that’s incorrect, the lanes are being reduced (edit: which to be fair, and likely the source of confusion, is all but synonymous with two lanes “merging”). Merging describe what traffic must do as a result of this reduction. The reduction is simply not marked, to indicate a zipper merge. Otherwise you’d be crossing a broken line and have to give way to traffic already in the lane you’re merging into. Being it is unmarked it means a zipper merge, which means traffic in the lane you’re merging with has to give way to you.

      When the lane you’re driving in is ending and you need to cross a broken line to move into another lane, you must give way to vehicles already in that lane – for example, when you’re joining a motorway

      You must indicate to let others know when you plan to move into another lane. Make sure your indicator is off after you’ve merged or changed lanes.

      Definitely not an edit and was here the whole time 2: Blue goes from being beside the broken line to (after merging) being beside the double dividing line. Whereas before and after the merge orange remains beside the double dividing line. If I had 6 hours spare I could go on paint and continue the broken line, turning the unmarked ending of the lane into a marked one demonstrating this.

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        @CTDummy @Zagorath 'scuse my butting in from over Masto way.
        Going by Qld Road Rules:
        From what you’ve quoted CTDummy, neither would need to “cross a broken line” - the line marking just ends. The car “should” indicate, and as the “in front” vehicle, gets to go first. The motorbike does not need to indicate.
        If the left lane had markings that went all the way into a lane-ending merge, the car gives way to the bike.
        The link below does not talk about indicating, and I don’t indicate if I am in the left lane in this scenario.
        https://www.qld.gov.au/transport/safety/rules/road/lanes

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          No worries, the more in the fediverse the merrier.

          From what you’ve quoted CTDummy, neither would need to “cross a broken line” - the line marking just ends.

          Yes, that lines up with my comment. I’m providing alternatives as examples. The rest of your comment is pretty much what I’ve said in mine.