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Eugenics where you try to optimize for high self esteem so that future generations no longer need stupid excuses to justify their breeding kink.
These people watched Idiocracy and got the wrong lesson
‘It became clear to me that people wanted more children than they were having,’ Babu says.
So clearly the best action is to constantly tell everyone how great kids are and that they should totally have them. Because that solves the problem of people wanting kids they don’t/can’t have. I try to read even our designated sneer fodder in good faith but I can’t understand why anyone thinks these people are at all intelligent beyond the “only slightly less than average” level. I thought Good Will Hunting taught everyone the difference between smart and rich, but maybe that was just me.
Read through the whole affair and just had to keep shaking my head the whole way through. Like, they’re at least capable of pretending to disavow the Nazis and fundies who follow the same pro-kid-having definitely-not-eugenics ideas. And they talk about some of the real obstacles or having kids; raising a child and setting them up for something resembling success is expensive and hard and the world doesn’t exactly feel like it’s on an upwards trajectory. But rather than look at those problems in their own right and try to actually make living cheaper or easier for people in ways that would make having kids more viable and more rewarding (How long are you at the office? How much time and energy do you have when you get home?), these upper-class twits of their generation are trying to convince the few people for whom those aren’t as serious problems that they should have kids. Like, I’m all in favor of improving reproductive health and that kind of technology but we are nowhere near the point where that’s going to make a population-level impact on demographics. Like, they’re out here trying to figure out if they can make the run to third base when they’ve only just brained the mascot with a foul ball. Solve the actual problem in front of us first.
Brainstorm session! How do we make the world a better place, being people that are motivated and live comfortable lives?
Do we help the needy? Do we use our influence to band together with our similarly-advantaged peers to change politics to make life easier for the disadvantaged? Do we use our able bodies to do volunteer work? Do we live minimalist lives and take only what we need?
Wrong, we pump out as many kids as possible!
- the Collinses
FYI previous discussions here about the Collins couple (there’s no quota or anything, just if you want to read more comments):
The article says in a couple parts that this couple claims to be pro-LGBT rights. This could not be farther from the truth, at least for the T part. They speculated on one of their podcasts that trans people exist because of anime avatars, and also derided trans people as “the priest class of urbanism”.
The glasses are nothing, he proposed to his wife on Reddit.
Not very elite as they don’t seem to understand genetics and the statistical finding of regression towards the mean.
Essentially their children are more likely to be less intelligent and talented than them. Its not a certainty of course, just a statistical observation. But you can’t game evolution and genetics as they are attempting to doing. Its a population wide process.
Human genetics are very complex and different combinations of genes give different outcomes. A combination of genes expressed in one parent is not going to be repeated in their child as there is a newnmix woth 50% different genes.
There is no guarentee that their new genes combinations will be beneficial and on average its more likely their traits will yield patterns that regress closer to the population mean than a new extreme with higher intelligence or more creativity or taller children. It can happen of course, but mating to merge disirable traits in one generation isn’t going to be effective.
And Horse Husbandry or Dog breeding is a multi generational process requiring direction, and has many many discarded gene lines along the way. It can work but it is an extended process and literally is at a population level, even if a small population.
So basically these people are not as intelligent as they think and are making life choices based off dodgy genetic ground. They’d be better off finding people they like rather than people they want to breed with. But maybe they have still found a good love match because they share their outlook and life philosophy even if its silly. I just feel sorry for the kids who may not be able to live up to their parents expectations.
‘Many of the groups that we are concerned about disappearing – gay couple couples, lesbian couples – from a traditional organs-bumping-together standpoint, can’t have kids… that are genetically both of theirs,’ says Simone.
No no they’re super smart and unless we come up with some sort of way for gay people to have children they’ll disappear entirely (gay people of course first came to earth from space in the year 1952, but the starship’s egg chambers were damaged in the crash landing)
Not very elite as they don’t seem to understand genetics and the statistical finding of regression towards the mean.
You don’t need to be smart to be “elite” with breeding fetish.
I am very sure that the only reason they talk about positive eugenics is because negative eugenics, literally forcing some people to not have kids, is taboo. Then again they are pretty stupid and arrogant so maybe they really believe they’re breeding superbabies…
Not sure they even see their babies as babies. The whole ‘positive’ eugenics trend is giving therapists some work at least
I usually read the articles linked in Lemmy but I haven’t managed to bring myself to read the whole of this one. It’s utter lunacy, linked (of course) to the EA and the cult of Yudkowsky.
Apparently the Wikipedia for The Collins is also an endless source of crazy.
