I think this decentralization and federation is what web3 is all about, without all the corporations calling everything to do with monkey pixel art that costs a million dollars “web3”

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    BLOCKCHAIN is stupid and that’s the end of it. Legacy banking will never ever switch to a stupid, inefficient and ineffective system over whatever they have now that does millions of transactions per minute with a small energy footprint.

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      The question is really, are the inefficiencies in blockchains or related solutions worth the trade off of Wall Street/Fed not running the economy. And they aren’t all proof-of-work Bitcoin either, Ethereum for instance is pretty finely tuned and on proof-of-stake now.

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        About that: if you think a bunch of crypto bros can do a better job of managing an economy than the Federal Reserve can, then I seriously question your sanity. The Fed hasn’t exactly done a great job of keeping the economy stable, but the value of cryptocurrency is not even remotely stable.

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          The value of cryptos are measured relative to USD and are highly volatile because they’re based on subjective predictions of what the value will look like 10, 20, 30 years in the future. The Fed doesn’t control the value of USD beyond their ability to manipulate its supply, which for the most part only serves to devalue it. Meanwhile, crypto supplies are algorithmically deterministic and not subject to human influence or corruption. It’s a very poor comparison and TBPH shows you don’t really understand the fundamentals.

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            The value of cryptos are measured relative to USD and are highly volatile because they’re based on subjective predictions of what the value will look like 10, 20, 30 years in the future.

            Indeed. It’s a vehicle for speculation (aka gambling), not a viable currency.

            The Fed doesn’t control the value of USD beyond their ability to manipulate its supply, which for the most part only serves to devalue it. Meanwhile, crypto supplies are algorithmically deterministic

            Then it’s doomed to deflate endlessly. A quick look at the Great Depression should tell you why that’s catastrophically bad. The Fed keeps the USD inflating for a reason.

            It’s a very poor comparison and TBPH shows you don’t really understand the fundamentals.

            No crypto bro has any business lecturing anyone on economic fundamentals. Especially not one who seemingly doesn’t know that deflation of the main currency is to be prevented at all costs unless you want to see bread lines.

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              Lol no, it’s the same way any up-and-comer has volatile value initially because there’s uncertainty as to the outcome.

              Great Depression “deflationary spiral” was a direct consequence of the Fed’s inflationary policies during the 1920s. These are all just discredited mainstream econ talking points. And get out of here with this “crypto bro” BS, god forbid anyone have an original thought that differs from your thinking.

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        The problem is that crypto is unregulated, the regulations are there for a reason, to stop things like ponzischemes and all the other things that already has happened that fucked people over. Maybe if they got regulated in some way, so that those things couldn’t happen easily, as it is now, I would say no.

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        That’s where my head is at. They’re building and improving it. Legacy banking isn’t exactly green itself, as card transactions have a pretty hefty carbon footprint. Further, banks are eyeballing their own “CBDCs”, which is basically cryptocurrency but without the intended benefits of decentralization.

        Zero knowledge roll-ups have a lot of green promise with gas fees… but DeFi isn’t better than legacy banking yet. Still, I think it will be sooner or later if only because some of those folks are actually trying to improve it (where banks are only really doing their best work at trying to get more exploitative).