• ouch@lemmy.world
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      2 days ago

      What encryption? There is no E2EE by default. It’s all plaintext.

    • pgetsos@fedia.io
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      2 days ago

      The encryption is not Trust me bro. It is public and tested multiple times. For example an analysis back in 2021:

      https://mtpsym.github.io/

      It found somes issues in the implementation of MTProto 2.0 from the official apps, with only one of them being actually usable as an attack vector, and they were all fixed before the disclosure of the analysis. They found no issues with the encryption algorithm other than some choices that may make the implementation of it harder

      • Rikudou_Sage@lemmings.world
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        2 days ago

        The encryption that only works in one-on-one chats? The encryption that’s multiple menus deep in said one-on-one chats? The encryption that no one uses because of the issues above?

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            That’s actually a perk. Means the decryption key is not uploaded to telegram servers.

            And, yes. The encryption all of the normies learnt to use for buying illegal goods while the prices were posted in wide open group chats. At least that’s how it was working in latin america with drugs.

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              That’s actually a perk. Means the decryption key is not uploaded to telegram servers.

              You could make encryption work between multiple ends without the server having to share the keys if each device has its own key - like in Matrix, XMPP, etc. And given that Telegram can’t do that, the restriction in question is still very arbitrary - in a one-to-one conversation, they just don’t allow you to make your end the desktop and not the phone.

              Also yes, here selling drugs over Telegram is a very big thing too and given how hard it is to use Telegram anonymously and safely - it is indeed monumentally stupid.

    • lepinkainen@lemmy.world
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      2 days ago

      I exclusively use it for public chats, like I did IRC.

      Neither had any encryption and I have no issue with it.