• mean_bean279@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    Also, the biggest thing to me is that the guy at least tried to not have those problems and did his best to stay active and eat healthy. The people I know with chronic conditions don’t also help themselves even after I’ve tried helping them. I get that not everyone has that capacity, but most aren’t so debilitated that they couldn’t go for a jog or low impact work out and eat healthier.

    Still doesn’t mean I don’t want them to go into debt for healthcare they should have a right to.

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        3 days ago

        I would say that disabled and chronic illness are not the same. I have a friend with MS. He literally can’t work out/walk. I don’t expect him to, but he still eats healthy and of course I’ll fight for him to get access to free care.

        I have another friend who is happy to go out with my wife and walk around shopping for hours on end. However when someone asks her to do something around the house she complains about her chronic illness, and she complains about how her stomach is upset even though she doesn’t eat well. She does have an illness that I recognize is real, however she has capacity to help her self in some areas in small ways that eventually add up to something bigger.

        There’s no doubt that the CEO killer didn’t have a real issue that was at times debilitating, but he also seemed to go out and hike, work out and eat rather healthy when it wasn’t as severe and he could manage. Exercise and healthy eating could solve a number of contributing/compounding factors for people with chronic illness but they have to take that step.

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      3 days ago

      You obviously have no clue about how those difficulties also affect their mental state. Depression can be way more severe and debilitating than most people seem to realize, which is why it’s officially a distinct disability on its own.

    • SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      3 days ago

      As someone with a few disabilities that used to frequently deal with sanctimonious bullshit like this, all I can say is: Jesus fucking Christ.