• ManithaNeyam@beehaw.org
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    12 days ago

    As a Tamil upper caste dude, the amount of blind hatred I see for religious minorities(Principally the Islamic community), is astounding. The justification provided for such rhetoric is heavily fascistic. Some of the rhetoric highlighted here is positively Strasserite. There is no justification based on facts for “Love Jihad” or “Anti-national” activities, nor is there any rational explanation for the discrimination faced by religious minorities, specifically Muslims. Side note, if you’re ever on a certain website with an alien mascot, never set your default country to India, unless you want to see a potent dose of fascist, majoritarian rhetoric.

    With this said, as an atheist by virtue of my epistemology, I see harmful behavior across religions, enforced by the thought leaders of said religions. In my mind, this is simply a consequence of majoritarian default-ist attitudes. This is principally evidenced by the treatment of queer and neuro-atypical communities across the world, by members of all religions, despite what the explicit text of their religious books may or may not say. In the end, even if some religions support minority rights, they do so with the same epistemological incorrectness that is present in those members that discriminate against minorities.

    In my mind, it then becomes necessary to teach not only the outcomes of science, but the process of and epistemological justification for the scientific method as well. However, as the systems of public education are in the hands of a state run by fascists and ineffective liberals, I highly doubt this will change any time soon.

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    The problem stated here is an extreme oversimplification of an already extreme oversimplification, but at least it covers some individuals and political entities doing horrible things. As for any actual solution, it is punishable under the law for hurting religious sentiment, is going to attract the hatred of all who are not the most powerless (from every religion and group) for disrupting the economic way of life, and is going to attract the attention of the countless Trump-size trolls in the country (a popular example). In addition to that, it is going to attract the ire of those persons who feel that making India the next China is the solution to countering China. The population is no more than a resource in a classified labour intensive region, however flawed the system may be, and capital intensive is not as simple as it sounds. The whole country depends on the existence of a powerless segment, and parts of the world depend on those in the country who depend on the existence of a powerless segment.

    In other words, get ready for many people with a vested interest in the cruel structure of the country to treat you like the most evil person in the world.

    Oppressed communities also have a tendency to oppress a segment of their own, so you will have those who believe that every oppressed side is composed of saint-like persons will also be against you—in this world where it is common to choose a ‘lesser evil’. It goes without saying that the oppression itself is unacceptable, of course.

    That is on a large scale. On an individual scale, those who does not follow the principle of harming others for personal gain are seen as fools, and as easy targets for harming for personal gain. It doesn’t matter how nice a person is, behind the niceness is usually hidden this acceptance. I would say that such persons who refuse to harm, however indirect the harm may be, are not fools but idiots who refuse to understand such a way of living which is dependent on cruelty. And I will continue to be such an idiot. If anyone is a fool, it is the persons with those acceptances. They mess around so much because they aren’t happy. And the most unfortunate cases are ones who try to co-operate with the ones who would harm them with the hope of reduced hostility, rather than wholly refuse to co-operate with them. Maybe even grouping up to pressurise rebelling forces to not disrupt the plans of the group. That said, the oppression itself does not get the slightest bit of justification. The attitude to harm another for gain is unacceptable to me.

    The current problem is a combination of multi-layered vested interest in cruelty, embarrassment even within the country over admitting to the occurrence of such a thing, and naivety which enables the hand which oppresses oneself—rather than denying it the aid it needs to do such a thing. In other words, political reliance mentioned in the article for the starving village was probably part of the problem rather than an improvement. If you are not respected as a human, you do not improve the situation by contributing to the functioning of those who were oppressing you. The situation seems no different from a group which had outlived its usefulness, and I think it is probably what happened. It is a horrible possibility which the vested interest group would have more interest in not knowing than not having it happen. What actually happened will be buried under layers of politics due to the embarrassment I mentioned before. Deducing things is the best one can do to know what happened. However, interested persons can also put in work to solve the problems faced by the village if they desire.

    Accepting accusations of being the worst human being around at the moment now…