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    Yup.

    You can kiss Trump ever seeing consequences for his crimes goodbye.

    Welcome to the new America.

    Elections have consequences and Americans are simply too stupid to maintain a democracy. So we won’t have one much longer.

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      Not happening at all, but the only hope for accountability is a massive blue wave in 2026 followed by an immediate impeachment. Even then that’s just early retirement.

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      I don’t think that’s it. Citizens of the USA don’t care about Trump’s felonies at all, that does not affect anyone’s day to day life (except Trump). USA citizens are looking at bills and expenses that didn’t get better with Biden, and Harris was essentially the same candidate. The hope is maybe Trump will try something different to help.

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          I agree with that. Here’s to hoping everything I thought I new about economics and government social programs was wrong.

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        !remindme in 1 year when the effects of mass deporting low income agriculture workers and slapping tariffs across the board kick in and people are hurting even worse. our big beefy boy will have done dick about it and people will revert back to hating him yet again.

        the average American voter doesn’t have the attention span to even remember covid or how Trump botched the response and helped kill a million Americans, much less the awareness to understand how badly the pandemic broke supply chains and thus the global economy, nor how the Biden admin still helped us fare better than the rest of the developed world in recovering from it.

        not that that’s the voters’ fault. Dems did absolutely fuck all to raise awareness of that for the every man. instead, they barked at people saying the economy has recovered to all time highs (for CEOs), ignoring the actual plight of the working class.

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          I still don’t understand why Kamela didn’t run ads reminding people of how badly Trump fucked up Covid

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            they were too busy courting “moderates” by sprinting to the right and capitulating to Republicans’ framing of the issues, a tried and true losing strategy

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          I agree, I don’t think Trump’s economic plans will be for people’s benefits. If he actually cuts the programs he has said he would it should reduce federal spending and then federal income tax. But I am of the opinion that the amount I would get back in tax savings does not outweigh the benefit of making sure myself and other citizens have access to these programs. But maybe I’m wrong.

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        Yes, a majority of US citizens are dumb. The average American experienced 3 years of retaliatory price gouging that was mislabeled as “inflation.”

        Why was there retaliatory price gouging? Punishment for not voting in Trump in 2020. Big business wants more de-regulation; so the next time the vote doesn’t go in their favor they can do it again.

        What enables them to do it again? Republican policy.

        We’re in a vicious cycle of stupid now, which again, was by design.

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          I don’t think the average citizen of the USA is dumb. People looked at what Biden did for the last few years and that didn’t help them. The Harris campaign would have done better if they had taken more stances that were different from Biden. (I can say this confidently now that I know the results of the election, I wouldn’t have said it a month ago.)

          I also don’t think there has been “retaliatory price gouging” as you say. The cost of production and distribution is always increasing, it’s why there is inflation. I don’t think you can find any actual evidence of price gouging because of Biden.

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        This is exactly it. A lot of people are struggling. They see less jobs, less pay, meanwhile the rich get richer. They see a system that benefits everybody except them. So Trump comes along and says he’s going to fuck up the system. That sounds pretty good. And if he can make a decent excuse that he’s been fucked by the system too, people are willing to overlook a lot.

        Plus, let’s not forget Harris had very little real message. Obama had a message- hope, change, yes we can. Hillary was as status quo as you can get, and people wants to reform. Kamala’s message was basically ‘I’m not Trump’ but unfortunately that’s not good enough to get you elected. Especially not when, before Biden dropped out and she got anointed, she was polling in the single digits.

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          I’m just a foreigner who is very interested in global politics and from what I saw, Harris did have a real message, with policies to boot. Such has first home owners grant, small business grant and the goal of increasing the size of the middle class, which means giving more opportunities to lower class.

          Trump on the other hand was ranting incoherently and when he was coherent, sent a message that he was going to take people’s rights away.

          I don’t understand how Harris needed to be clearer when it was as clear as night and day that she was the best choice economically and would provide a more stable future. In my opinion, it wasn’t Harris’ fault she lost. She ran a decent campaign. It’s just that America is more than not racist, sexist and uneducated.

          Disclaimer: I’m not saying US is any worse or better. Heck, Australia voted no to indigenous recognition in our constitution while the US actually has support for their indigenous communities. We’re racist, dumb and sexist AF too. This is just an example of how powerful misinformation can be.

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            The USA does have racist and sexist people but I don’t think that was a driving factor in this election. The news certainly favors portraying the opinions of the more outspoken “crazy” people because that gets views. I think a lot of people in the USA are fine with gay and trans rights. The real issue is increasing costs, people care less about minority rights than being able to feed their own family. I do think Harris’s tax and economic plans made more sense and I wanted her to try to make them a reality, but I think a lot of people here viewed these as the promises Biden made and couldn’t follow thru on. Cancelling student debt was a huge thing Biden tried to do but ultimately couldn’t.

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              Ah yes, the ol’, “the Democrats didn’t deliver on it so I’ll vote (or not vote at all, leading to a favorable situation) for the people who blocked it every step of the way”, strategy. Galaxy brain tier tactics.

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                People want change. It’s like they’re fixing a car and the correct tool isn’t doing the job. So they break out a hammer to at least get the bolt moving. Yeah, it’s gonna fuck other things up but it will at least do something.

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    Probably best not to give the Orange Idiot the satisfaction of firing them all. Sure it’s a petty victory, but when it’s the only victory all your hard work will ever amount to, go for it. The only way Trump will ever be punished is if somehow it becomes legal to punish his heirs/estate after he dies of whatever does him in. Old age or heart disease if I had to place a bet.

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      Or he is ending the thing so he can leak the evidence to the public instead of having it terminated by trump’s folks during his presidency and have to turn it all over to trumps people where it will suddenly stop existing. Smith has always existed several steps ahead, there is reason.

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    special counsel jack smith is 100% my type. he could fuck me until my asshole was a gaping tent flap

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      Homie seems like a coward from where I’m sitting.

      You worked your entire career to get to this peak and you’re going to quit before they fire you?

      No dedication. No spine. Mf should be waiting in his office with a loaded handgun for the clown squad to come get him.

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        Dude went publicly up against one of the most powerful people in the world and you call him a simp ?

        Go take finish taking your Putin back shot keyboard Gimp.

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      • Because his job will now never be completed
      • Because this also slightly diminishes the possibility that he’ll be politically prosecuted by the incoming admin - though to be clear, I fully expect the Trump DoJ to make Smith’s life a living hell, and to throw him in jail if they can, and perhaps even execute him if they can figure out how to kangaroo court things to that degree. That is not a joke. This is an entirely serious comment.
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      Actual reasons from an actual lawyer here https://youtu.be/wFEo9YJjGA0

      Tldr; Every other possibility ends in dismissal with prejudice. Dropping it leaves it potentially reviewable in 4 years. It’s still highly unlikely anything happens.

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      Because the cause for his appointment no longer exists. The OLC memo regarding the prosecution of sitting Presidents means that Smith’s appointment is frustrated at its most basic level of inception.

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      The Fascists will fire people with firing squads, there’s no shame in an act of self preservation when resigning from a job you can’t do might keep you alive.

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      just wait till Jack see’s all the new crimes trump is gonna commit, he’ll be back in business in a few years

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        Dog… just stop with the copium. It’s embarrassing. Trump will never answer for his crimes, period. This should be abundantly clear after 8 years of flopped motions against him.

        No Mueller report, no special council, no hush money case… is ever going to stop this guy.

        Give up on the idea of justice against this dude and start preparing for his dictatorship.

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          “Won’t somebody [redacted] of this [redacted] p[olitician]?” unfortunately seems like our only escape hatch. I wish the two time travelers had better success in their missions. I am not confident the future resistance has enough resources to send a third, but one can hope.

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        The Supreme Court already rules that not only is Trump all but immune from prosecution, but that he can’t even be investigated or questioned over it.

        So if Trump were to make a phone call and say “Yes, we’re going to sign this into law, and schedule a meeting about that other thing. Oh, and have Tom Hanks killed in a hail of bullets, kthxbye.”, the fact that he ordered Tom Hanks killed might be prosecutable. The problem is that even if they know he ordered Tom Hanks killed, they legally can’t even ask him about it because it happened during an official phone call.

        Trump could go on a crime spree that would make the Mafia legitimately look like choir boys, and Jack Smith…well, Jack Smith isn’t going to be able to do Jack about it.

        January 20, 2025 isn’t a swearing in ceremony. It’s a coronation.

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          yep, I hate it but at least it’s starting to sink in. come jan. we are in a functional trump dictatorship. there are no checks and balances left, the court assured so and with the legislative branch under his control, the single, only hope we have is that he’s too hilariously inept to be effective.

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            And this didn’t even require a violent takeover like he thought was necessary last time. He was a far worse candidate this time and so much of the American public was eager to throw the power back into his hands, while a sizable chunk did not seem to think it was important enough to go vote against him.

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              Right. And can buy the scorpion and the frog argument the first time around but this time there was NO ambiguity.

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                No ambiguity for anybody who cared enough to pay attention anyway!

                It’s like the scorpion only stings while the frog is sleeping, and every morning the scorpion complains about how those damn hornets wearing DNC and BLM shirts came back and stung the frog that the scorpion loves so much. And despite the stings not even looking like hornets did it, the frog is unaware of the concept of confirmation bias and likes what he’s hearing so he just goes with it.

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                  I’m always a fan of torturing a metaphor so yeah, exactly :)

                  It’s been going on for ages but at this point I don’t really blame the scorpion anymore. I certainly don’t blame the hornets wearing t-shirts, I mean, I don’t like them and I will try to exterminate them but not by trying to starve them out with scorpion overpopulation.

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    Leave it up to moderate liberals to roll over and die. Way to signal his kingship guys, fucking top notch pick, that Merrick Galand. To think this ineffective dipshit was considered for SCOTUS. Literally a direct historical correlation to the rise of Hitler through ineffective and complacent liberalism from the socialist party. I guess when you construct a DOJ that doesn’t prosecute billionaires the whole thing short circuits when the tyrant is one… who could have predicted that except every leftist and historian?

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      I’d quit too. America was too stupid to not vote trump in again, so why the hell martyr yourself for half a country of clowns when it gains you nothing?

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      Guess this election really was the nail in the coffin for me regarding how people were so blind and meek regarding Hitler’s rise to power. Guess anyone that’s not a leftist really does just let it happen, and the left is turned ineffective due to being labeled too extreme

      History will think of today’s USA the same way we thought about nazi Germany: wondering why nobody just put a bullet through Hitler’s skull

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            Because at the time of the Nazi takeover, the party with that name was wholly operating as a rubber stamp to the most extremist right wing elements taking hold of their party. “The Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea” is similarly nondescriptive as “German Worker’s Party” later purposely misleadingly named to “National Socialist German Workers’ Party” after Hitlers rise.

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              Ah I see. Yes, no doubt the NSDAP wasn’t socialist but that doesn’t mean Germany didn’t have socialist parties back then. E.g. the social democrats were still marxist, iirc.

              As an aside it is very saddening that people really think the nazis were leftists because of the name. That’s just a level of stupidity I can’t fathom to comprehend.

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        I believe they were referring to the German Social Democratic Party, which was in power for a time during the Weimar Republic.

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    The Darkest Brandon move would be to remove the DOJ policy on not investigating sitting Presidents. Many of these cases were clearly not under Presidential Immunity, and some weren’t even done while Trump was President. That should have consequences regardless of getting the job back or not.

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        He’s an obvious national security threat. Biden could claim immunity since it would be an official act to protect the country.

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      I still don’t understand how this is an official DOJ policy. I always see it referenced as a DOJ memo from the 70s. Who gives a shit about memos? This is supposed to be a country of laws, not 50 year old memos.

      But yeah, would love Garland to issue a new memo overturning that policy. Let Trump’s first official act be to overturn an existing policy to prevent him from being investigated. Not saying he would even hesitate to do it, just saying I’d like to make it an explicit step he has to take.

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        Legal memoranda are not just an interoffice note. They are policy interpretations and internally-governing documents. The memorandum is from the Office of Legal Counsel which is an independent subdepartment — neither Garland or the President himself can overturn the policy.

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          Thanks for the clarification. I’m glad that presidents can’t just overturn Justice Department policy when they want.

          Wish we had a remind me bot so I can check this comment in 4 years and see if that’s still the case.

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        That’s government for you. If the 50 year old memo is the only thing that talks about it, then that’s the basis forever. There’s so much stuff like this that there’s an actual legal term for ignoring it: Desuetude. But that’s usually for things much, much older than that, and they would have been actively ignored for almost as long.

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      I dont think republicans picking whos vote gets counted and throwing all the rest away really counts as ‘people made their choice’

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        Are you suggesting that the difference in results is purely because votes were tossed? Yea voters rolls purged and gerrymandering, but the left didn’t show up, and that’s why Trump won. He has by all accounts more supporters than Harris did, and they made their choice.

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            For sure, not arguing that, but if people went out and voted for Harris she maybe could have won. Instead more people voted for a rapist that will do everything in his power to take full power in the US.

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            Stop acting like MAGA. I live in North Carolina. The state has voted Dems on the state level and Republicans on the federal level consistently since 2016. Even Trump distanced himself from Robinson after his Black Nazi porn shit came out.

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              So what your telling me is the guy who cheated in 2016 (proven in court) and cheated in 2020 (we all heard it) Definitely didnt cheat this time…

              ok got it.

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                I mean, what’s one more normally-career-destroying crime spree that we investigate years after the fact and has no adverse effects on him?

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              And in case you missed it, criminal and rapist trump just nominated child rapist Matt Gatez to be attorney General, in case you were wondering how everything is going.

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              It the US its becoming clear that the elected officials pick their voters, not the other way around as it should be. And yes both sides do it, but one side does it a Lot more.