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    6 days ago

    Alright, since you seem like the kind of person that appreciates hyper-literalness:

    Yeah, that one rings a bit hollow, although I guess it could use it as an argument we’re dumb, because we’re doing it to ourselves. All the rest could theoretically apply, though.

    “could, theoretically”, sure.

    but in practice those condemnations are too broadly applied and don’t reflect the constant struggle for progress or range of human success.

    Do you intend to imply that “the constant struggle” makes humanity more worthy than our actions would imply, yes or no?

    If yes, than you’re saying, relative to what was previously implied, that humans are pretty great. I supplied some reasons that they aren’t.

    If no, why do you have a problem with what I said?

    Alternately, if you do not have a problem with what I said, why are you here?

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      “you seem like the kind of person that appreciates hyper-literalness”

      not really, I’m more of a stickler for accuracy, consistency and intention, and you really noodle around with those.

      “Do you intend to imply…”

      nope

      “why do you have a problem with what I said”

      you were defending the reasoning for global genocide(I know you’re whistling a different tune in later comments, I’m talking about why I refuted your earlier defense of genocide) as a response to me saying that global genocide is not an appropriate punishment for humanity’s failings.

      I don’t have a particular problem with you as a person, I’m pointing out flaws in your reasoning and I feel that your affirmation of genocide as a viable punitive response to humanity is disgusting.

      maybe distasteful now, rather than disgusting, since you’ve backpedaled your support for genocide in recent comments.

      it’s not you in particular, I feel the same way about everyone in this thread who are cynically giving genocide the thumbs up as a concept or “joke” while probably posting “supportive” Palestinian flags and comments on social media.

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        I’m more of a stickler for accuracy, consistency and intention,

        Same thing. Most people find it abrasive and unnatural, but I can roll this way too.

        you were defending the reasoning for global genocide(I know you’re whistling a different tune in later comments, I’m talking about why I refuted your earlier defense of genocide)

        Please quote the earlier defense of genocide.

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          “Please quote the earlier defense of genocide.”

          it’s kind of long, but sure.

          bear in mind that the topic is global genocide, the context to your comment is my disagreement that global genocide is justified, and you are arguing that cthulhu’s reasoning is valid:

          "…the only counter to this is that we’ve toned down the war, slavery and brutal exploitation over the last 200 years. The last 10,000 before that and probably the last 200,000 before that are kind of the same thing happening over and over again. What’s more, nobody can adequately explain why it’s suddenly started to improve, or if it will stay that way. For all we know, we live in the turbulent transition period between agrarian hereditary autocracy and dystopian high-tech hereditary autocracy.

          All in all, humanity is (morally) shit…

          you further claim that humanity is shit by humanity’s standards, but are speaking only for yourself and by your own reasoning, thereby identifying your own personal and singular standards, rather than “humanity’s”.

          you have robustly defended the reasoning for global genocide.