• r00ty@kbin.life
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    7 days ago

    I think it goes further than that. There’s two things happening with regard to AI and software development.

    1: Stack overflow has become less common as a resource to solve problems. This, as you say has a problem of input into LLMs for future problems to solve.
    2: Junior developers are being hired less because of AI. I assume the idea is that seniors will use AI in the same way they would usually use juniors. Except, they’ve done what business always does. Not think one bit about the future. Today’s senior developers are yesterdays junior developers.

    The combination of AI performance drop due to point 1, and the lack of new developers because of point 2 makes for potentially, a bad future for the profession.

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      As a senior developer I have no idea how I’d get an AI to autonomously keep a small subsystem maintained. If I was replacing junior developers, that’s what it has to do.

      Everybody in my team gets to own something. What you own depends on your capability. You learn by doing. No dogsbodies doing busy work.

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        Everybody in my team gets to own something. What you own depends on your capability.

        This is a point I try to constantly make when people don’t understand why 2 people have the same title but don’t really have the same job, especially in technical fields.

        No two people have the same set of skills, so we all end up taking on the tasks we’re more capable of than the next person.

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        I don’t think developers are doing it. It’s managers making this kind of decision I’d say.

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          It works great if nobody ever leaves or dies or takes vacation. We try to discourage siloization of projects and emphasize cross-training - it makes the job more interesting, gives people more/better tools to solve problems with, etc. And anytime the business objects we mention the project where X left and how painful it is to get new anything added/enhanced because none of those tenets were involved.

          However, all bets are off with offshore contractors. Some want to learn, some simply don’t care and will do the bare minimum.

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            We try to discourage siloization of projects and emphasize cross-training

            This is how my work has been and it allowed me to touch every part of the repo while still a junior dev and gain lots of experience. So I also like that. But lately I’m trying to specialize more and go deep into things, and I like the idea of being an expert on something. So I appreciate the trade-offs.

            all bets are off with offshore contractors. Some want to learn, some simply don’t care and will do the bare minimum.

            As a guy who was replaced by offshore contractors, and who hasn’t had a single interview in 7 months while offshore contractors are (probably) still getting lots of work… I find this observation both heartening and disheartening.

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      Junior developers are being hired less because of AI.

      Where are you seeing this? I’ve not seen any evidence of that, yet.

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        I’ve been told about companies in the same field as mine with a hiring freeze on juniors. So it’s kinda second hand.