• sp3ctr4l@lemmy.zip
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      I will always opt for a Lyft or Uber, unless I am actively dying from something that could kill me in 30 minutes or less, like a massive severed artery or something like that.

      They are just as fast, and if I start literally dying in the hospital waiting room, they will most likely pay attention.

      The only way it makes sense to take an ambulance to a hospital is if you literally have no other option, or if you are so seriously injured you’ve already lost consciousness or are mostly paralyzed.

      You can call an ambulance, paramedics arrive, stabilize you, and then refuse to get in the ambulance.

      This costs you nothing.

      Then you just bite on your wallet and take an Uber or Lyft, which costs 10 to 20 dollars.

      Get in the ambulance? 1 to 3 thousand dollars, for a shitty version of the care you’ll recieve in the hospital anyway, can’t avoid those costs.

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      My intention is definitely “fuck cars.” The fucked-up thing here is that even ambulance drivers, who should know better more so than almost anybody, are incompetently right-hooking cyclists. Billing him for it is merely the icing on the shit-cake.

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        So your alternative would be that ambulances should no longer use cars? From my perspective all kind of emergency services such as fire department, law enforcement, ambulances should be the very last cars we get rid of as a society. They have to be fast and they need to transport a lot of stuff and people.

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            The rest of the world often also builds better infrastructure, like a protected bike lane, to signifcantly reduce the conflicts between cars and not cars.

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              A bike lane would’ve helped. If there wasn’t one, I can see a good reason for whatever the fuck really happened here.

              If there had been a bike lane, he could/would have stayed there behind the stopping line acknowledging the right of the ambulance to go first, but without one…I can see someone in panic trying to get out of the way and then getting run over regardless of where he was positioned.

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                The size of a country shouldn’t impact urban areas that much. Cyclists aren’t biking from california to florida on a daily basis, they are biking from their home to their job, gym, or groccery store. Your country is not too big for bike lanes, you’re city planners are just wastefull.

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                  Oh I don’t disagree, just a fair point, it wouldnt make any sense in rural areas, which is 97% of the USA landmass lol

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                Which makes my point. Japan has 300+ people per square km, almost 10x as dense as the US. They still put out fires and carry sick people.

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                  My point is it’s much easier to have localized support when there isn’t miles between buildings lol

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                    Oh I didn’t realize you were making a strawman argument.

                    We were discussing the unnecessarily large emergency vehicles.

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            Any vehicle large enough to carry the necessary equipment and people for emergency services is going to be dangerous to pedestrians. Not sure what you’re trying to prove here.

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              Tell me youve never been in another country without telling me youve never been in another country.

              Ambulances and firetrucks in Europe and Asia are smaller than most american pickup trucks.

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                I agree that the US have way too many way too big trucks but this…

                Ambulances and firetrucks in Europe and Asia are smaller than most american pickup trucks.

                … is just wrong. I live in Germany and even small villages with only volunteer firefighters have full blown trucks way above 10 tons.

                Most fire departments have something like this:

                MAN TGM 18.330 Tank with 4,000 litres of water 18 tons total weight

                More specialized departments close to industrial facilities, airports can be also much bigger. This one is currently the biggest weighting 52 tons.

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                  Here in 'Murrica, they send something like in the second photo when grandma falls in the bathroom.

                  Yes, I’m exaggerating, but not by much. The truck in the first photo is smaller than the trucks my city fire department has. There’s a retirement community not far from where I live, and they send a ladder truck for medical emergencies there several times a week. I’m not really sure what use 4,000 liters of water would be when somebody is having a stroke.

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                  Weight doesn’t matter in this context? US firetrucks are almost a meter wider than german ones. A german firetruck is only about half a meter wider than a Ford F450.

                  And also firetrucks in US are first responders, they go before ambulances for most emergencies.

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                Unless they have some sort of advanced materials science in other countries we don’t know about here in the US that makes them as light as cardboard, I’d bet my year’s salary you wouldn’t volunteer to let one hit you.

                And yes, I have been out of the US. Shall I tell you what we say about those who “assume” things over here?

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                  Clearly you didnt watch the video, because you couldn’t be more wrong. This is uniquely a north american thing

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            Fun fact, many if not most of those ambulances are made in Canada, and not the USA.

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        A lot of EMTs work 24-hour shifts, and 48-hour shifts are not uncommon. The thought that the ambulance driver on the road next to me might be at hour 46 is… frequently worrying.

        The problem isn’t the EMTs being incompetent, the problem is with the industry standards and the employers.

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          I was forced to work a few 24+ hour shifts in healthcare and working on zero sleep fucked me up. It gave me migraines, vomiting, insomnia, manic depression and I felt like I was going to have a heart attack.

          It is beyond cruel and inhumane that employers can force people to work without sleep. It is so fucked that not allowing someone to sleep is considered a form of torture by the Geneva convention.