Context
- List of instances defederating from Threads, the Meta microblogging platform: https://fedipact.veganism.social/
- At the moment, Threads have incomplete federation with Fediverse microblogging instances: https://fediversereport.com/last-week-in-fediverse-ep-86/
- Another meme about Threads: https://feddit.uk/post/18194873
- Threads does not currently federate with link aggregators (Lemmy, Piefed)
- Threads could work with the microblogging part of Mbin
The main arguments for people to defederate are
- “Embrace, extend, and extinguish” strategy: https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html
- A potential federation with Threads (should Thread decide to implement it) would overwhelm Lemmy/Mbin/Piefed with millions of users (compared to the 40k monthly current active users), transforming those platforms into a threaded version of Facebook
- Defederating preventively costs nothing
LW stance: https://lemmy.world/post/1274909?scrollToComments=true
The threads hate is so fucking stupid. Companies getting involved with Lemmy would be awesome, mostly because it’s a replacement for discord. The whole EEE thing is FUD, open source largely solved that problem. The people with control aren’t just going to give Meta they keys anyway. Some corporate involvement could help solve some real issues with making hosting easier, reducing storage needs, and increasing federation throughput.
Corporate instances would be awesome to add to my feed for the things I want to see and it would be a way to attract people to get the more niche communities. The tools already exist for the people who don’t want to see that content. If for example steam community discussions became Lemmy communities that would be a huge win for the platform.
Also threads isn’t even the same federation model as Lemmy anyway and it’s unlikely to ever actually federate to here anyway.
Threads hate isn’t stupid. Consider for a moment the literally dozens of people online without FB or Insta accounts. That is a choice. It’s nice to have somewhere that doesn’t have those users, with that groomed content, pumped for profit. Meta exists to make money - the Zuckdroid wants a finger in the fediverse pie to maximise profit for the share holders; not because he’s gone all in and techno-philanthropy. Having said that, the dilution of quality and nuance his user base “could” bring is the real worry though.
Federation has much less to do with profit, and more to do with showing the EU that they are attempting to embrace open standards. Everyone slamming the door on them gives them a way to justify keeping their wallet garden.
“Wallet Garden” might just be the most appropriate typo I’ve ever read… Any decision made by Meta is done in consideration of their bottom line and secondly I’m quite happy for the vast majority of their users to stay in a walled (sic) garden. The internet is busy enough as it is - we’d be overwhelmed by pure numbers.
This is similar to how bridging ActivityPub and AT Protocol would result in more federation for Bluesky, while blocking the bridge would let Bluesky remain (mostly) centralized.
Part of the appeal of lemmy is the distance it keeps from corporate interests. Inviting them would no doubt encourage sponsored content and advertising.
Yes it can happen anyway, but I refuse to roll out the red carpet for corporate schlock.
Which can easily be ignored if you want to. You can not subscribe or even block instances you don’t like.
Lemmy is a replacement for discord???