I’m very careful with privacy and security so I was surprised I got an obvious phishing email from “American Express”. I reported the email and moved on only to get another one today. I checked haveibeenpwned and it came back clear. I have never gotten a phishing email before the other day. As for the senders, they all came from generic IT sounding email addresses. They obviously weren’t American Express.
If you have signed up on dubious websites with questionable privacy policy, many of them legally sell this data to “data brokers” who then sell it to anyone willing to pay. This happens more than you’d think, for example in 2019 it was reported California DMV makes $50 million a year selling users information. https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a32035408/dmv-selling-driver-data/
One neat trick is to signup for services with an email like [email protected], that way if you ever get spam you’ll know where you have been compromised.
Information might also be leaked through data breaches. An email is not a particularly hard thing to find, or even guess.
A spammer could easily just have a computer iterate through all possible combinations of emails and usernames, and shotgun it.
Especially for a name like OP’s. If their email is a similar name, it wouldn’t be difficult for generate one that is also two words.
Nah, my email is my name. It’s a very uncommon name.
And you have zero social media with your name?
I’ve used this many times before. But this is so well known I wonder, why wouldn’t spammers/scammers just remove the “+” and trailing characters before “@“?
True. A more reliable way to achieve this is to buy a domain and use addresses in the form [email protected].
Yeah that also usually comes up in these types of discussions. Even for technical people, that approach can be a pain to manage.
I might need to use your trick in the future. Thank you!
Some companies just blatantly sell your data. Others get breached and you are part of the package that gets sold by the hackers.
The only “way around” is to use unique mail addresses for each signup/company so you can easily lock it and switch to another one when it gets known.
Just assume, that everything that you type in a form online (or in any other way send to a company/another person digitally), every email you send, everything that gets digitized about you, etc. will be public one day. Either because the other side of the transaction sold it or because they (or you) will be hacked eventually.
Btw: HaveIBeenPwned does not necessarily contain all breaches. I have several notifications of companies that got breached and leaked my data that are not listed in HIBP…
employees of companies with whom you’ve registered that email id sell it for some quick cash on the side.
i can aver this confidently since i know someone from dominos pizza has leaked my email id. i have a convoluted gmail id which i use to register to all these services and – because it’s gmail – i can set up random dots and a custom phrase behind a + to register specific variants to specific companies (e.g., abcxyz123@gmail vs. ab.c.xyz123+dominos@gmail).
all the spam and pseudo-phishing email is sent only to the variant which i’ve registered to dominos and not to a different variant (e.g., a.bcxyz123+bankname@gmail) registered to any other company.
the leaked email id doesn’t contain a name and is too random for it to just be “guessed” by the spammers.
Have you given your email address to any other people you know? If so they probably put it into their contacts. They then use apps like whatsapp, insta, snap, etc which request access to their contacts. These companies then sell that information to ad companies. Tadaaa.
Honestly, no. Not that I know anyone who I’d want to have my email. I see your point though.
It can happen in many ways. If you’ve ever used your mail for anything, then the address is out there.
Just the other day I got an email addressed to 50+ people with every email in the “to” field. Ironically the mail was about online security…
Obviously it’s a breach on GDPR, but the damage is already done. If just one of the other recipients has been hacked or has forwarded to someone who is or has allowed some dodgy app to syncronize contracts, the scamners now has all the emails.
There’s absolutely nothing I could have done to prevent it.
This just makes me think being online sucks like 50% of the time. I try to tell people to be careful online and not give up personal data when it can be avoided. People are so willing to give up everything for convenience sake. I complain about data collection and shitty tech companies and I’m called a paranoid schizo. Then again, I did everything right and still got fucked. Welcome to the internet. Sorry if this came off as negative. I don’t know what else to say.
Probably a breach that’s not on have I been pwned yet.
bummer
One possibility is that you have a fairly common username part and a similarly common domain like, say, gmail.
There’s nothing stopping a spammer from taking existing addresses and word lists, then taking them apart and putting them together in different ways to make up completely new addresses to send spam to. It doesn’t matter if 99% of the addresses they make up don’t exist because they’re only interested in the 1% of the 1% of successes who will fall for their scam. They don’t even get the rejections because the From address is usually bogus too.
e.g. I bet whoever owns john dot smith at gmail gets a huge amount of spam whether he’s in any databases or not.
yahoo! mail offers throw away aliases you can delete if you get spam on one.
So does Tuta which I currently use. It’s funny one of my aliases was in a breach recently.
This is gonna sound silly but check here:
Might have some info if you’ve had creds leak or get exposed somewhere.
Nvm, just re-read your post and saw you already did. Leaving this up for the link for others. Sorry to bother!
