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    Has nothing to do with international politics or government diplomacy…

    … it’s coming from the universities themselves, because they’re run as private businesses already, and they service the needs of international students as their primary income.

    Which means some censorship of Chinese political history. Eg. Tianamen.

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      This is wrong on so many levels 😂 If you’re this propagandized, then I’m sure you don’t know what actually happened in and around Tiananmen Square, which by the way is not even censored in China like we’re always told.

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          These kinds of news articles are an example of how universities are being increasingly pressured by state actors to be more critical of China.

          High numbers of Chinese students at Australian universities have created an environment of self-censorship with lecturers avoiding criticism of Beijing and Chinese students staying silent in fear of harassment, Human Rights Watch said.

          Human Rights Watch’s core mission is to publish negative propaganda about states that the US wants to have regime changed. The purpose of this article is to put pressure on universities to get in line with the new cold war.

          Citations Needed podcast: Episode 08: The Human Rights Concern Troll Industrial Complex

          I try to lead folks toward developing real media literacy: https://lemmy.ml/post/17665401/12094932

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            … you’re posting a podcast titled “CitationS Needed” that’s clearly trying to pass its self off as famous YouTuber Tom Scott’s “Citation Needed” (no plural) and it features Trump supporter, Glenn Greenwald (his fall from grace and later support of Trump is well documented, up there with Michael Moore, and Matt Tabili).

            https://link.motherjones.com/public/35592388

            It’s pretty sad that this is your idea of media literacy - name swapped podcasts and deadbeat Trump supporters.

            Who did I present as evidence again? A small news agency known as Reuters? …and your idea of media litteracy is - a podcast pretending to be a more famous podcast.

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              … you’re posting a podcast titled “CitationS Needed” that’s clearly trying to pass its self off as famous YouTuber Tom Scott’s “Citation Needed” (no plural

              This amounts to a conspiracy theory. It’s a completely different kind of format and the hosts introduce themselves up front. If it’s a knock-off, it’s not a very effortful one. You’d probably have an easier time saying they stole the name, because it’s a very good name.

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                Sorry, not everyone is willing to take: Random guy said it on a podcast, (or defender of Trump said it on a podcast cast) as a source worth listening to for trusted reporting.

                Not to mention the rudeness of just assigning someone a podcast in an online discussion, or the fact the podcast had no relevance to the topic of whether Australian universities are self-censoring due to reasons of; Capitalist exchange.

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                  Whether the podcast is relevant or not has nothing to do with what I said. Whether it is credible or not has nothing to do with what I said. Whether you are justified in feeling offended over it? Nothing to do with what I said.

                  For my own mental health I’m going to just not take the bait which is that parenthetical. Instead, I would like to focus on how “I refuse to listen to even two minutes of this podcast because I don’t like its pedigree” is not actually a go-ahead to blindly presume things about it like the conspiracy theory I initially pointed out. You can refuse to listen to it, that’s fine, but that puts you in a position of lacking a lot of information for making assertions about it. What that means is that what you can do is ignore it, or say you don’t want to engage with it for such and such a reason that you actually have good reason to believe and then leave it there. That’s how epistemology works.

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                    Good job making up a quote, then knocking it down. You should totally spend your life energy getting into tangential argument that only you give a shit about.

                    …but maybe write 3 paragraphs next time.

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                  Yup. Clear violation of the rules.

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                    I know right, the cowardly mods on .ml just nuked my comment because they can’t handle that perspective… I didn’t swear at you (and you know this), I didn’t aim to be insulting - it’s just indicative of the fragility of the marxist left today when it comes to discourse they can’t combat, compute, and have no reasonable response to.

                    Users have to be protected because apparently they need to be kept in a state of false consciousness for a Marxist left to continue. Which as Marxists you should all be worried about (it hints at an issue with Marxist party politics). But you lot may well not understand what I’ve said.

                    Good luck having your eyes protected for purely ideological reasons… And good Marxists should know - he wasn’t a huge fan of ideology or respecting it as causal or desirable.

                    He was very practical, hence concrete historical materialism.