Which is the better option + spinning a vm is possible and ltsc the only issue is I have to repirte a windows license for ltsc(and according to Microsoft ltsc was mostly designed for embedded systems) thanks for any help and I decided to post it on the linux community bcs I couldn’t find a suitable place to post it and this is related to linux but man I love linux tho and if I go with the jumpship method I have to sadly leave some games behind like roblox (it’s fine due to some moderation issues bad games etc etc but ngl its a fun game ik sober exists but i kinda dont wanna use a android emulator to play roblox i could use it since its our only option for linux)
I jump shipped to arch when I first started out. But I had experience with Linux vms for school already
Dualboot definitely, don’t belive anything other than that, taking slow the only good way
plan to wipe windows in the future anyways bcs win11 sucks
When I left for Linux I had to give up League of Legends. I sucked it up, & after a month, I was fine without it & it was better since I knew it wouldn’t be worth the effort even trying to install it on Linux.
Another point for Linux
i am trying to give up roblox preparing for 4 months to a year why a long time you might ask bcs am currently waiting for the 6 month trial to end.
I would almost recommend GPU passthrough if you have a dual GPU system and can figure it out. It definitely takes a bit of tinkering, but I like the results: I now have both a Windows 10 (maybe will become 11, maybe 11 LTSC) and a Hackintosh VM. It’s not as good if you only have one graphics card, through. If you’re up for it, I used this tutorial. If it’s an AMD card, though, make sure to check my issue for any steps relating to that.
As for dual boot, get a second drive if you can. I find it helps me avoid a lot of the misery, although I very rarely actually boot up Windows anymore - just a VM if I really have to (which I do for MATLAB because my university is ridiculous and I figure if I’m going to use an evil programming language, I might as well use it in an isolated, evil environment).
if i ever considered gpu passthrough should i get a gt 710 alongside gtx 1650
Something like that. In my setup, I passthrough my RX 580 (my nicer card) and have my RX 550 (a dirt cheap one I got for ~$85 on sale) stay connected to the host.
You should set up dual boot now so you don’t get surprised by differences when support ends and you feel the need to switch to an ltsc sku or use Linux.
Don’t wait, prepare!
Keep a hold of windows for a little while so that if something critical comes up that you can’t figure out you have a fallback.
ok prob 4-months/1 year i will keep a hold of windows
A good project between now and then is to investigate the iot sku. It has everything “unnecessary” cut out because it’s intended to be installed on refrigerators and has a much longer support window (2032?) for the same reason.
the iot sku would be helpful on those edge cases i needed to use windows
The alternative route I took is maintaining a mac computer for when I need to “be normal”.
was my idea but macs are quite expensive
Maybe not as expensive as you think. The classic getting into the mac game choice is the 2012 mbp 12”, which can run a supported macos with opencore legacy patcher and costs <$200 with 16gb ram and an ssd.
The next best starter option is probably to make the big long leap to a first gen m1 air which can be had for ~$400 if you keep your eyes open.
Those are both expensive to me lol, but not the multiple thousands for a new computer.
ohh
Throwing out another idea: I upgraded an aging laptop and put mint on it and it’s my main right now, but I can get on the newer windows computer if I need to. I rarely need to now, though things will come up and its nice to have an out. Recently it was getting my printer working which I so rarely use. Didn’t have the patience, just needed the doc printed, flipped to windows.
It’s a little sad to me. I watched windows rise to its peak with windows 2000 and slowly fall. Been using it since 3.1, and had dos-only for a little while before that. It’s time to say goodbye. Been on and off with Linux since the early 2000s but this is my first real big push to use it outside of work or projects. Linux has come a long way from those days.
what printer brand your on?
It’s a Canon. If I just sit down for a bit with it I’m sure I can get it working, but sometimes you just want it to work right now.
oh brother people say it works and hp there is a software for it and idk about canon but there is prob no linux support like their cameras.
Cups takes some playing with to get right but once you have it setup and saved, the thing should work whenever
ohh yeah cups i forgot ik its used by the hp software
should I completely jumpship to linux when windows 10 ends support
Nah, there’s no need to wait.
I’d recommend dual booting right now so you can transition over a longer period. Also make sure your chosen distro supports dual-boot. Technically any distro can dual-boot but if it doesn’t support dual-boot you’ll have to put in some extra effort to make sure both can boot safely and easily.
need it for some apps but its possible i can switch on march 2025 a whole few months before windows 10 ends support
Why wait? There’s no need for Windows, unless you’re running some super-specialized app. The new versions of Windows already have telemetry and privacy issues, so why just go with minimal security options that MS is selling you? You can do almost everything in Linux just as well, if not better, than Windows does at this point. Start with Linux Mint, which is the most Windows-y distribution and you should be golden.
i already use linux as a dualbooted os, Ngl i agree but i got affinity i need to wait for it to expire (it was 6 mounths)
Basically there’s your answer. Hang onto Windows until then, move your workload over as much as possible, and then jump ship.
You can always consider the experience of using Linux as a “game” itself and DU ET NAO!
…no really. Do it.
prob 4-months/1 year
I’ve been a dual / triple / god knows how many OS booted since the 90’s.
Windows has gotten into bad habits lately - it’s not staying in its lane. Meaning it hasn’t respected other boot partitions for a long time, and recently there seems to be a lot of people having problems with windows nuking their linux installs.
My strong recommendation is to buy a second hard drive if you dual boot. Then windows can be “over there” - I’ve never had a problem dedicating ssds to the OS. My second recommendation is to do this now, why wait until you’re forced into something? You’ve got a year to learn Linux and get comfortable with it.
As a counterpoint, I’ve had Ubuntu’s installer and grub’s updater overwrite and break Windows’ boot files several times, but never had the opposite happen (I’ve had both destroy themselves, though). Thankfully, I know how to rebuild the necessary parts of a Windows install, so it’s never been a catastrophe, but it’s irritating to see what’s always been the source of the problems I’ve had be held up as infallible. Possibly this is a problem unique to Ubuntu - I’m happy to blame Canonical - so maybe it could be entirely sidestepped with other distros.
oh yeah speaking of other drives its better since gparted doesnt let you merge it somtimes into one linux disk causing you to reinstall
I took a more aggressive approach, I bought a second drive, but I just took the old one out (laptop). I made a windows recovery USB too and just stored them together. My laptop doesn’t get firmware updates through FW update so a couple times this year I have swapped the drive back in, booted up the windows partition and updated the firmware through their stupid tool.
Even on the vendor site, this laptop only has .exe files for firmware
The longer you wait, the more distros we’ll have to argue about when you ask for suggestions
Jump the ship, I did 6 years ago, before even proton was a thing when games worked witha lot of thinkering.
Nowdays you habe so many great games working you won’t mind a couple of games not working because of all the other playable games.
Did you write “thinkering” on purpose? Because it’s fantastic.
Oh yeah true I can run most of my games I play daily fine( including proton and native but gmod has some hiccups on native linux tho) on my dualbooted partition or in this case separate hardrive (excluding roblox like mentioned in the post)
same here, same time period. everything works. one have to be aware there’s no adobe or autodesk and linux is not windows same as osx is not, and it will not look or behave as windows. beside specific issues for some users, for me it works flawlessly.
one thing cannot grasp is willingness of so many to dual boot.
No autodesk, but if you have the budget you can use Siemens NX (version 12 or before) on Linux. They have install media for SUSE or RHEL. I found it more performant on Linux than the W10 install
No better way to learn and get used to it than ripping off the bandage and being forced to deal with it. That’s what I did. Been Windows-free for ten years. If you still have a Windows partition around, it may be too tempting to just go back to it when things get a bit hairy.
As far as games, yeah, it sucks that I can’t play some games, but I’ve filled that time with more productive hobbies. I can program C and C++ now, self taught on Linux.
But the more people that jump ship, the more developers will target Linux, so it’s just a matter of time now before you can play anything again. It’s definitely a 1000x better environment now than when I switched back then.
if you only play mostly indie,singleplayer they should work fine in my opinion and apps find the alterntives?
Why wait? Start using Linux friendly software in your day to day workflows. Then start to dual boot Linux with your current system and start using it more and more. By the time windows 10 reaches EOL you will know if you still need a Windows install or not.
I am already dualbooting I discovered most of my software I need work first I need to get rid of affinity suite since it’s a trial and then I can get rid of roblox if I start becoming bored of it for multiple reasons(rubin Sim explains this well)
So, why wait for windows 10 EOL? If you are already mostly on Linux and are planning on getting rid of the last bits anyway? If you really need to you can always reinstall windows on a second disk or in a VM later on if you really need to - no real need to preemptively do that if you dont plan on using it.
on second thought i can possibly leave windows once affinity subscription ended
I have windows on another disk bcs I still need windows for some stuff ATM and win10 eol would be the prefect time and bcs I have affinity 6 month subscription that is pushing me back from wiping windows I can also get more disk space with a raid config + I don’t want win11
I was in the same boat as you but I just kept using Linux more and more. I left my Adobe subscription with a bit of time left because I wanted to get better with darktable before the time ran out in case I needed Adobe but I ended up not
even if i didnt wanna use Linux i wouldn’t buy adobe
That’s good
true i heard of their evil practice
I switched a year or so ago and never looked back. there will be issues you need to overcome though. so better start with dualboot before windows 10 is eol
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