• PonyOfWar@pawb.social
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    No music, no images… two things that have defined Human culture for millennia. The Taliban must really love leading a miserable existence.

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    Make sure that mountain is free of any trees before taking that scenic picture.

    This essentially bans all photography - it’s fucking weird.

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      Afghan Art exhibition:
      Here’s a picture of a brick.

      Afghan religious leader:
      Should we execute him? Just to be safe you know!

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            See, that’s what we need to settle the debate about the biological status of viruses. A fatwa.

            Maybe they can decide between tabs and spaces next.

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          Ah yes, I guess we better execute him, the whole thing smells fishy, like an attempt to oppose authority.

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              Get them - err, I mean get that thing which may or may not be a person… but, if they are currently a person, I’m sure it’s just a very temporary condition.

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              What if my own blasphemous eyes and mind keep creating images of living things?

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              Goddammit I’m just trying to keep us safe from immorality! Or worse questioning authority. 😋

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                “Keeping us safe”, yeah, sure. Squad, this one. Also the one above. And the fellow below, too. Goddamn infidels, destroying our lovely… Uh, lovely… Lovely love for living in the present, yes! Just as the prophet would’ve wanted!

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          Bacteria, spores, and other microscopic life are in every picture taken of the natural world at a minimum.

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      Nah, you just have to photoshop X eyes and a stuck out tongue on every living thing. They didn’t say anything about dead things.

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      I wonder where the limit is.

      Like is it just photos or all depictions? If it’s all depictions, how far does it go? Will certainly combinations of letters be banned? :O :P :) \o/

      If so, will kanji be banned as well? We Lemmings all know this one by now

      :.|:;

      And I don’t know any actual kanji but I do know lots of their origins are depictions of living things, plants, animals, people.

  • ⓝⓞ🅞🅝🅔@lemmy.ca
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    I really, really wish the linked article explained more. What are they playing at? This is such a confusing level of control.

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        Okay but what about the image cast on our retinas through our eyeballs that we use to see?

        Those are imperfect imitations of reality also. What’s their stance on those images…

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        But apparently written religious works or talking about god’s work is perfect, or that would be banned too.

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        Why only images of sentient beings though? Did God not create the rest of it too?

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        I knew someone who believed that it sucks the soul out of you if you get photographed…

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      God doesn’t want you to mix fabrics or eat certain foods on certain days. “Confusing level of control” is on brand.

      It’s not about making sense though. It’s about making you do what they want so that you know who is in control.

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        Not mixing fabrics and certain food practices were originally based on lived experience, like safety guidance, before getting coopted by religion. Kosher practices avoid cross contamination, and mixed fabrics could have something to do with temperature regulation in desert areas where it swings between extreme heat and cold daily. Or it could have existed to discourage lying about prodict quality by those who would sneak in poor quality materials.

        When religion got ahold of these concepts they were absolutely twisted into controlling people.

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        These are not rules of Islam though. On the contrary Islam made many rules of Judaism obsolete, taking away complication in religion. Islam also provided a much clearer theology than Christianity and specifically rejects the “trinity”, “holy people” and other concepts contrary to the oneness of god.

        What the Taliban and other Salafi/Wahabi people do, is quite fringe and it is infuriating that the Brits and later the Americans helped the Saudis to seize power in Arabia and furthered these extremist interpretations.

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            Ramadan does not have rules about what to eat. The rules are when to eat and quie straightforward. During Ramadan you fast from Dawn till sunset, unless fasting poses a risk to your health (sick, children, elderly, pregnant…)

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              Oh well that makes complete sense and isn’t about control at all!

              /s

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                As someone who has fasted for Ramadan the first time this year i can assure you, that nobody was controlling me except myself. While i also felt it to help me physically, it helped me a lot mentally.

                I learned to appreciate the abundance of food and water we have and to have more compassion for people lacking it.

                I also learned to have more control over my body and differentiate between actual needs and mere wants.

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      According to wikipedia, that isn’t even a problem within the Quran itself, but rather a hadith (oral tradition) from some other fellow: “Sahih Bukhari explicitly prohibits the making of images of living beings, challenging painters to “breathe life” into their images and threatening them with punishment on the Day of Judgment.”

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        But they still have TV, right? They did the last time the Taliban was in charge. I remember a news segment about it way back when the war started. The programming was mostly a bunch of religious stuff and their idea of news. So I guess no more news? Or no more TV? Or just text…

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          The russian way is to set up extremely restrictive laws covering everyone as guilty, so a governing body can use them to charge everyone they want. I guess, talibs learnt some of that wisdom visiting Kremlin while being a designated terrorist organization here, kek - and this status would get lifted in coming months.

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          I suspect some of them might still have cell phones with internet. I wonder if they’ll also force people to use text images as avatars on twitter or something

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    That’s accurate to historical Islamic practice, unlike a lot of their crazy shit, but nobody else does it because it’s going to be insanely difficult to work with.

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      Except historically the arts flourished under Islamic rule. While Islam does have an anti icon streaks it was never enforced save for the depiction of the prophet Mohammad.

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    Obviously I’m not pro Taliban or this, but one thing that has been amusing me has been the US institute for peace decrying the fact that they outlawed poppy production again because it increases poverty. Western media on the subject is a mixture of it’s bad and it won’t work (they’ve actually reduced poppy production by over 90 percent though). Pre war we were justifying sanctions due to heroin production, post war it actually increased under American administration and the fragile kleptocracy we encouraged(which “banned” poppy production), and now it’s bad they’re slashing and burning poppy fields.

    https://www.usip.org/publications/2023/06/talibans-successful-opium-ban-bad-afghans-and-world

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    Now it’s just a bunch of religious fascists trying to one up each other.

    Give it enough time and they have implemented so many rules, no rule is relevant any more

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    what can you expect from an undead demonic army prepping for the holy battle of megiddo?