• Snapz@lemmy.world
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    20 days ago

    Minimizing is you’ve perception through misinterpretation. You’re a child and I’m not minimizing the genocide that Israel is actively perpetrating.

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      20 days ago

      Right, only a child misinterpreting would think that comparing a genocide to “getting poked gently in the ribs” is minimizing it.

      Most reasonable liberal.

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          20 days ago

          How so? I’m not the one comparing mass slaughter to getting poked in the ribs.

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            20 days ago

            Well, your “liberal” comment to start, but more importantly, your repeated, performative missing of the point of the original statement. That wasn’t the comparison made. All of your “counterpoints” center back to your same core misunderstanding of the original statement. Doesn’t slow you down a tick though, does it?

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              19 days ago

              Why would calling you a liberal be “showing my ass?” Liberals are supporters of the capitalist status quo. I’m not a liberal because I’m a leftist.

              I have not “misinterpreted” anything, willfully or otherwise. You compared the current situation, where both sides support genocide, to a hypothetical where one side is “gently poking you in the ribs.” That is a minimization of genocide. It’s possible that you misunderstood my criticism - that comparison is inherently minimizing genocide regardless of your point.

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                19 days ago

                The “sides” originally compared are trump and Harris and their general approaches to governance - international diplomacy being a part of that overall equation and not the whole. Again, YOU FUNDAMENTALLY MISUNDERSTAND the original point with an inherent bias in your processing of information it seems.

                First “liberal” is a general descriptor of personal philosophy and not a party, liberal transcends party affiliation as it’s a point on a spectrum within a party - you’re failing in trying to speak to “leftists” versus “democrats” or more accurately, establishment democrats specifically.

                Next, you claim to be a leftist, but leftists have more reason than you in my experience (source: am walking, talking, protesting, voting leftist AND a rational adult who understands emergency triage enough to know you need to assess a situation and survive the small battles to win the larger conflict). Your position isn’t “leftist” it’s maybe ignorant, misinformed anarchy - you want to burn shit down because it hurts your brain to make a plan.

                And you also seem to be fixated on America while not living here or being a citizen abroad, which is another layer to this whole exchange? Where is your passionate attack of Israel focused on specifics of their inflicted and ongoing genocide - nowhere. That’s because its similar for you to attack this middle layer and feel like you’re “helping” - you aren’t helping shit with your shallow, misdirected vitriol.

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                  19 days ago

                  Again, YOU FUNDAMENTALLY MISUNDERSTAND the original point

                  Again, no, I do not misunderstand the original point, I don’t care about the original point, my criticism is that your comparison of genocide to getting gently poked in the ribs is minimizing genocide. Not a single thing you’ve said has in any way refuted that, you keep talking about the point of the analogy, but I’m not talking about the point of the analogy.

                  What makes you think I don’t live in America? I do.

                  Everything else is just you screaming and throwing a fit over what you assume I believe, which is completely irrelevant to the conversation. The only point I’m interested in discussing with you is how you’re minimizing genocide by comparing it to being gently poked in the ribs.

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                    19 days ago

                    Oh for the love of god! What they’re saying that you’re not understanding is that if-

                    Providing arms to Israel = 1
                    Being a rapist = 2
                    Having 34 felony convictions = 3
                    “Dictator for a day” = 4
                    “Help Israel “finish the job” = 5
                    Project 2025 = 6
                    Abolishing body autonomy for women = 7 Abolishing the rights of the LGBTQ + = 8
                    Attacking American citizens with their own military = 9
                    And being able to execute people that he doesn’t like = 10

                    …. Then:

                    • Harris = 1
                    • Trump = 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, and 10.

                    THIS IN NO WAY MINIMIZES ANYTHING.

                    Hopefully this can end your confusion and settle this derailment of the topic.