• Ephoron@lemmy.kde.social
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    1 month ago

    If you read the whole post rather than just the bit of it you think you’ve got a condescending answer to, we might have a more productive conversation.

    The question was if your claim is that the Democrats have a policy of shifting in the direction of more votes, then why do they not shift in the direction of opposing arms sales to Israel?

    Your assumption that the Democrats move policy in the direction of more votes (the one you think it’s so “stupid” to not know), is directly contradicted by the evidence that the majority of the country are anti-war and they are not shifting in that direction.

    Just repeating blind platitudes you read in The Atlantic is not an argument. You have to actually attempt to respond to what your interlocutor is saying.

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      1 month ago

      I didn’t say it was stupid to not know that the Democrats pivot right when they need to gain more votes, I said that it’s stupid and damaging that they do so.

      But it’s also logical. Sadly, there isn’t a secret leftist majority just waiting in the wings for that one extra well worded announcement from Harris so they can vote in droves and give the Democrats a supermajority up and down the ticket.

      Unfortunately, it’s America, and elections are won or lost in the song states, so it’ll be decided by a bunch of “centrists” in Pennsylvania who can’t decide which is better, loony right wing Republican policies or more moderate Democrats. If it’s too “communist”, they’re scared of it, but if you can give it some good ol’ American branding like “Help for Heroes”, you can get away with it.

      These are the centrist votes the Democrats need to win, but if they can win without them, they can afford to be more left wing.

      The centrist’s both sidesism is as reality denying as your own, but the bad news for you is that there are a lot more of them than of leftists, so the Democrats are only safe from centrist influence of the left wing folk show up and vote for the less right wing option. Your refusal to compromise is exactly how you make it senseless for the Democrats to chase your votes. You were never going to vote for anything short of communism, so you were never going to participate in choosing the president so your opinions cannot ever matter to the Democrats. This is, unless you’re prepared to vote for them sometimes, you know, when the choice is particularly stark and the country stands on the brink of fascism.