• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    25
    arrow-down
    16
    ·
    edit-2
    18 days ago

    And remember they need all 3 of presidency, house of representatives, and senate to pass pretty much anything

    The odds of Democrats keeping the Senate seem dismal. So it sounds like we’re giving the party license to do nothing for another two years

    • BarqsHasBite@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      20
      arrow-down
      18
      ·
      18 days ago

      I like how you twist that to “party license”. If the people voters vote that way, that is the will of the people voters. Don’t like it? Vote. For Dems. (Though the GOP bear some responsibility being obstructionist pos.)

      • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        28
        arrow-down
        4
        ·
        18 days ago

        If the people voters vote that way, that is the will of the people voters.

        Sorry 50M Californians, but 40k West Virginians decided to go a different way. Guess this means no civil rights for another two years.

        • BarqsHasBite@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          17
          arrow-down
          9
          ·
          edit-2
          18 days ago

          This is aimed at those people that think not voting or voting 3rd party is effective to “make Dems listen”. It is not. Voters have a say.

          • sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            edit-2
            16 days ago

            Dems are a coalition. Centrists are not powerful enough within that coalition to act like utterly unaccountable god-kings. If that needs to be beaten into them then so be it.

            • BarqsHasBite@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              3
              arrow-down
              2
              ·
              16 days ago

              Lol I assume you mean that you (the leftist) will beat some message into the Dems. Dude, you will not win this Mexican Standoff because the Dems have an out: The center voter. Who, wait for it, actually shows up.

              Alll your “beating” is beating yourself when you hand the overton window over to the GOP. It’s the biggest self own in history.

              • sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                16 days ago

                We’ll see wont we. If progressives stay strong and dont vote early, I’d bet real money Harris caves on the weapons shipments.

                • BarqsHasBite@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  2
                  arrow-down
                  1
                  ·
                  edit-2
                  16 days ago

                  What, are you slow walking your replies now that I called out you out? What part of when they lose they go to the center do you really not want to accept. Shipments will depend on Israel’s actions. God why do I bother. Ciao.

        • Soup@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          6
          arrow-down
          9
          ·
          17 days ago

          So give up? Yea, it fucking sucks and is unfair as hell but voting is too easy to claim a lack motivation. It’s not a sustained effort, it’s something happens incredibly rarely and you can definitely handle. You can even mail that shit in in most places.

          If you vote then it will be hard for the democrats to win and start shifting your countries policies to leftward(even if it’s an inch at a time). If you don’t vote then it will be impossible to do it.