uh no, i think the point would be that it’s a scary game. This isn’t a fucking beavis bacon teaches you typing simulator game.
Beavis teaches typing would probably be a riot
Reminds me of the opening scene of one of the CoD games where you just walk into an airport and start opening fire on random people. I did not continue playing that game.
IIRC you never actually have to shoot any of the civilians in that level, but as players we all assumed that you did. IMO that level was the most interesting commentary that has been made in the COD series because it (somewhat sneakily) put the onus onto the player. Most of us just assumed that we needed to gun down the civilians without choice. In my opinion its one of the more poignant moments in the entire series for how it handled such a grim story beat.
By any chance, have you ever played Spec Ops: The Line? I feel you’d enjoy it.
Iirc in Germany the game was censored in a way that you lose the game if you actually shot someone.
It wasn’t some sort of ethical quandary. The point of the game is to shoot people.
I disagree. Point one, the point of COD games was always to be the “Good Guys™” defeating the “Bad Guys®” but this level has you doing Bad© Guy™ stuff… So do YOU do bad guy stuff because you’ve got to so you can do Good° Guy© stuff or do you abstain? This point is somewhat ruined by “The cops showed up, we gotta shoot them.” Which then directly shows you the gameplay loop of the entire game and begs you not to engage with it.
Point two, Spec Ops: The Line, don’t worry not the white phosphorus scene. In the refugee camp you need to disperse a crowd of unarmed refugees who are going to kill you. They’ve killed your squad mate and your other squad mate awaits your order. You open fire on the crowd and your squad mate says “What the FUCK? You didn’t need to gun them down!” Jokes on you, the whole time you could’ve shot in the air and they would’ve run. You made the choice to gun them down despite not having weapons. The gameplay loop is “Shoot bad guys because they shoot at you” not “shoot anything you feel threatened by.”
The point of the game can be anything. The gameplay loop is to shoot enemies to win levels. The point was that unarmed civilians aren’t enemies. Are cops though?
This game makes me SMILE because it SHOWS me that TRANS KIDS EXISTING are WORSE then LITERALLY BEING GUNNED DOWN!
-Pro Life Republicans trying to Protect The Children!
From the trailer and article this looks and sounds well done. It reminds me of Amnesia, at least in that type of psychological horror.
It sound like most didn’t read the article. You aren’t playing as the shooter, it is a horror game where you are the victim trying to escape and/or hide from the shooter.
I haven’t read the article, probably won’t, doesn’t really interest me. But I thought the title pretty clearly implies you don’t play as the shooter. I’m surprised others didn’t interpret the same way.
I wish they’d share the crime scene photos of their kids.
No parent should go through what they have gone through. And they want to express that through a game. It is an incredible idea, especially because of interactivity of the medium. I always believe that art can help hold a mirror to the society and this game proves that.
Oof… Man, to live in the US. I don’t envy you guys, though things aren’t really going the right direction here in the Netherlands, either.
I’m at a man in Gibraltar who said the same thing to me. I said “you fight them here, I’ll fight them there.” You with us?
I try, brother.
Can’t wait for this to release and then be sited as a reason why the next shooting happened by Republicans because “It’s them dang video games desensitizing these kids to violence.”
It is released, you can download it from their website https://www.thefinalexam.us/
I can’t wait to see speed runners cheese it and completely miss its point :/
TBF, generally speedrunners start speedrunning games because they love it to death (ie. have played it through several times already) and want to start challenging themselves in new ways.
…or the videogame is known to make views on youtube.
Anyway, this don’t undermine the intention of the developer.
Speedrunning isn’t THAT popular. If you want to chase trends there are much easier ways other than spending thousands of hours on a single game to have low chances of make a record.
Yeah I agree. the effort to profit ratio on speed running is so low there is no way anyone is doing it for profit over their love for the game.
I tried speed running a game once and it was exhausting. It’s like accusing math professors of publishing papers for the money.
Except for the people that try to cheat to do it.
A videogame making views on YouTube is only incentive for first playthroughs as views on YouTube are usually for people’s reactions to stuff. Speedrunning really usually is a passion project.
Yeah, I get that, but on the more aggressively short cut games, you could argue its not the same game anymore if all the story is now skipped. Still entertaining to watch, and I do occasionally, but it can get a bit silly.
I’m still looking forward to the first:
“Hi guys, today I’m going to show you how the locker skip works, you just run at this locker while tapping crouch, annddddd we are clipped through the ground, and can now run to the exit. Easy game”
:D
any% with glitches is pretty much always a wild ride to watch.
on that note; man I need to get back on the IGN’s playlist of “devs react to speedruns”, most devs are such good sport when it comes to breaking their game :D
No one has a record on speedrun.com time for me to get that world record!
I beleive in you!
? Why come up with a hypothetical outcome just to make yourself mad? Is there some trend of speedrunners ruining educational games I am missing?
Its a joke, relax. Almost all games get speed run, no reason to expect this to be different. And any% speed runs often skip huge portions of the story, no reason to expect this to be any different either. There is nothing to be mad at, it’ll likely happen, it’ll likely be silly/funny to watch.
The :/ face doesn’t help it seem like a joke. It reads like you’re genuinely upset about people misunderstanding art.
Text is a bad medium for conveying emotion.
To me, :/ has always been a fairly neutral expression, like
¯\_(ツ)_/¯or 😐, I would have used :( to convey upset, but its certainly reasonable that others would read it differently.I kinda hoped my other comments would have made it clearer, but again, text is a bad medium :( oh well
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I’m not mad, its a joke. There is nothing to be mad at.
You can’t really make a point about reality by making a game. A game is a list of rules. You can adjust these rules however you like to see which players perform closest to what you think is the best way to play, and you can also sit and watch as all of those rules are cheesed because there’s no external factors to consider.
The game is gonna prop up whatever the developers think is right and be completely meaningless in the grand scheme of things.
Games should aim to be fun. I’m gonna get back to helldivers to deliver some managed democracy to alien scum!
Uhm, Columbine RPG anyone?
Where’s the simulator where I can shoot back?
In the “Fantasy” section.
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So as a kid at school you have a gun? This is simulating what the kids have dealt with.
I didn’t, but knew many who did.
The solution is gun culture changes and mental health for all. In Canada we can own long guns or handguns, but there is a level of respect and responsibilty that goes with it, that USA seems to lack.
We’ll now you’re just flinging shit and missing the point of the right to bear arms. Good luck taking your long guns to overthrow a corrupt government as is the intended purpose of the right.
you realize longgun is not a musket loader, but a category of guns that have a barrel right? Like besides owning HandGuns we can also own rifles and shotguns. But we don’t have gun violence like the US does where kids need kevlar backpacks
This… Is special kind of stupid lol
More like you’re just a run-of-the-mill moron.
You play as a victim running from the shooter though.
I can see modders getting their hands on this and…subverting the original intention say.
Every shooter that allows custom maps from the late 90s and early 00s has a map resembling Columbine. If your reason to not make a game is because someone might turn it into something horrible, there would probably be no games.
Sigh, not suggesting they don’t make it.
That’s a really silly thing to worry about. Modders can do that with any game. It would be easier to mod fps games into ones where you attack kids anyways.
Who says I’m worried?
Why would modders start with this basic game that lacks gunplay or NPCs to make a game where you play as a school shooter? The Unreal Engine empty project is closer to what you’d want as a starting point…
The urge to troll?
You can admit you didn’t really give it much thought. I guess doubling down also works, maybe they’ll mod it into a VR GTA clone MMO for lulz
Well no, I didn’t give it much thought it’s a comment on lemmy, not a manifesto.
Creating a school shooter sim may be easy, but modding a political “game” built to highlight the horror of school shooting into something “funny” that reverses its premise entirely will make a headline.
If people are letting hypothetical trolls control their actions then the trolls already won and they don’t even exist.
Idk about that, modding game is only easier if there’s mod tool, else the extend of it will only be just replace some asset/resource. Quicker to just slap together some asset and compile…a new game.
It’s a 10 minute game, that at the end of it tries to convince the player to vote on new gun laws. Who is this targeting? Gamers that are into horror/terror games have played plethora of great games in that genre, have a hard time believing they’d even care to download the game for those 10 minutes.
I know a lot of gamers who would be interested in a 10 minute game. Obviously not for $60.
it’s an awareness tool, we’re talking about the game right now, people will play it on streams, dumb reactionaries will say stupid shit about it, and we’ll be talking about gun control bills all the while.
It’s like a PSA or political campaign ad, but interactive and intended to be viral.
It’s not trying to win game awards or start a video game franchise
Well at least they tried giving people an experience of a school shooter, not just sitting on their arse commenting on the Internet.
You know, that’s an experience everyone should hope to have. How can we beef up the realism a bit?
They can do a new map DLC for every major shooting, that’d start to get the point across when there are hours of content.
Why? It sounds like haunting experience from what I’ve read
