You’ll have a ton of people jumping down your throat about how not voting for her is a vote for Trump and all this nonsense
I’m just going to add here, that when I’m indicating this kind of thing what I’m hoping for folks to get out of it is how broken our first past the pole system is.
Because of that system, yeah, 3rd party candidates are tossing your vote away, that’s how the system is created. I didn’t make it, that’s just how it works. It’s also why the hard nationalist group usurped the party of small government. There’s a realization that a realistic third party isn’t possible, especially with how hard the two majority parties prevent 3rd parties from having an equal seat at the table going into elections. So the smarter groups have realized that if you can’t effectively make a 3rd party, just take over an already existing one. You can also see that with socialist and the Democrats intermixing. We keep excusing it by indicating “shades” of a color, like deep blue Democrats, etc.
There’s layers to the “voting 3rd party is tossing you vote away”. You aren’t at fault here for a desire to vote 3rd party, but if the only thing you take away when someone tells you that is “you’re worthless for tossing your vote in the trash” you’re kind of missing the point.
Our system is built a particular way and it’s wrong to pretend it isn’t. That 3rd parties are viable choices or actual reflections of non-mainstream political agenda, they aren’t and our tectonic sized two parties are mostly the reason for that. I’m not going to tell you to vote for whoever, all I ask for anyone is to see the problem and know voting 3rd party isn’t, strictly, going to fix it. If we look at the US State of Maine, you can see, that there is actual change and that we can have it if we demand it, no need for hard bordered in 3rd parties to enact it.
I’m not angry at anyone who says they are voting 3rd party, you do you is my biggest jam. But we’ve got to see the problem before we can address the problem, and then we need to effectively address the problem. Which means, yeah, we are wholly reliant on something that sounds impossible. For one of the two parties to get into power and then vote to make changes that could potentially dilute their power. I know that’s asking for a big leap of faith there, it is possible. But it isn’t possible if we’re just sticking our heads into the sand.
One sec, let me just wave my magic wand and solve all this
oh wait, that’s not how it fucking works. if you had anything more than a surface-level understanding of the US government, the voting system, and how grassroots change occurs, you wouldn’t be making yourself look like a moron. it’s not like a large portion of the population doesn’t want change, but your understanding is equal to ‘like and share for thoughts and prayers’, and then you get mad that nothing happens - that’s not how it works. You’re upset with the wrong people about the wrong reasons and expecting a system you don’t understand to do things that it cannot easily do. Then get upset that change - egads - takes time, effort, persuasion, luck. So you come to literally the worst conclusion because of lack of understanding on all levels. Each comment I see here by you shows an obvious lack of understanding on this topic.
Well, you guys gave us an actual honest-to-god “we can do something with this” majority for all of a few months in the past 20 years. What the fuck do you expect?
I’m just going to add here, that when I’m indicating this kind of thing what I’m hoping for folks to get out of it is how broken our first past the pole system is.
Because of that system, yeah, 3rd party candidates are tossing your vote away, that’s how the system is created. I didn’t make it, that’s just how it works. It’s also why the hard nationalist group usurped the party of small government. There’s a realization that a realistic third party isn’t possible, especially with how hard the two majority parties prevent 3rd parties from having an equal seat at the table going into elections. So the smarter groups have realized that if you can’t effectively make a 3rd party, just take over an already existing one. You can also see that with socialist and the Democrats intermixing. We keep excusing it by indicating “shades” of a color, like deep blue Democrats, etc.
There’s layers to the “voting 3rd party is tossing you vote away”. You aren’t at fault here for a desire to vote 3rd party, but if the only thing you take away when someone tells you that is “you’re worthless for tossing your vote in the trash” you’re kind of missing the point.
Our system is built a particular way and it’s wrong to pretend it isn’t. That 3rd parties are viable choices or actual reflections of non-mainstream political agenda, they aren’t and our tectonic sized two parties are mostly the reason for that. I’m not going to tell you to vote for whoever, all I ask for anyone is to see the problem and know voting 3rd party isn’t, strictly, going to fix it. If we look at the US State of Maine, you can see, that there is actual change and that we can have it if we demand it, no need for hard bordered in 3rd parties to enact it.
I’m not angry at anyone who says they are voting 3rd party, you do you is my biggest jam. But we’ve got to see the problem before we can address the problem, and then we need to effectively address the problem. Which means, yeah, we are wholly reliant on something that sounds impossible. For one of the two parties to get into power and then vote to make changes that could potentially dilute their power. I know that’s asking for a big leap of faith there, it is possible. But it isn’t possible if we’re just sticking our heads into the sand.
The problem is you guys have been saying this same shit for decades, and things have just gotten worse for it.
thanks for your constructive feedback, we’ll get right on it this time.
One sec, let me just wave my magic wand and solve all this
oh wait, that’s not how it fucking works. if you had anything more than a surface-level understanding of the US government, the voting system, and how grassroots change occurs, you wouldn’t be making yourself look like a moron. it’s not like a large portion of the population doesn’t want change, but your understanding is equal to ‘like and share for thoughts and prayers’, and then you get mad that nothing happens - that’s not how it works. You’re upset with the wrong people about the wrong reasons and expecting a system you don’t understand to do things that it cannot easily do. Then get upset that change - egads - takes time, effort, persuasion, luck. So you come to literally the worst conclusion because of lack of understanding on all levels. Each comment I see here by you shows an obvious lack of understanding on this topic.
alas… I crown you king moron
Well, you guys gave us an actual honest-to-god “we can do something with this” majority for all of a few months in the past 20 years. What the fuck do you expect?