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      I literally started learning how to program like months before the whole “AI will take your job on an by the way we don’t hire JR devs anymore” so I gave up on it…

      I just got to the point where I could consider buying a house months before COVID.

      I had thought about joining the military to learn some skills for “free” and graduated highschool exactly when Bush decided Iraq needed to be invaded for oil God knows what reason. Even as a dumb 17 year old I saw right through that and said fuck no.

      I completed a trade school 4 months before “the great recession.”

      If God existed he would be Lucy holding a fucking football and I’m Charlie Brown…

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          The service industry is suffering pretty badly at the moment, maybe they can become a server and fast forward us to the point where 70% of restaurants and bars close because one worker can’t do the jobs of 4 people. Then after they move on to a new industry we can rebuild the service industry properly.

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          I’m still trying to figure that one out to be honest. I need to leave the state I’m in if I have any hope for a future that isn’t living in someone else’s garage.

          Also I see your username, you should know what I’m aiming for next so you can screw me! Lol :P

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            There’s a ton of work in green energy and water management.

            When Harris wins, there will be even more federal funding being dumped into these sectors. However a ton of that work is either going to be labor intensive or require a specific education (or both).

            Also, the software engineering field isn’t going to be replaced by AI any time soon (if ever). What will happen is that AI will become a tool of skilled engineers to increase their output efficiency, consistency, and quality.

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        Becoming a programmer isn’t the gold rush free money wild ride it used to be, but programming skills are 100% still in demand. Lots of companies are pretending that they don’t need juniors because something something AI, but that’s transient-- Either a) the AI bubble is going to collapse, or b) roles and skillsets are going to shift around until they settle into a new paradigm.

        That paradigm might have juniors just like before, or it might look like hybrid “people who code” roles that aren’t like traditional full-time developers.

        In any case, there’s still tons of value in learning to code, and I think it’s worth sticking to if you like it.

        If you don’t particularly like it though, then yeah just bail. The skillset will still be handy, but the career path might be a little unstable for a few years.

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        Ai bubble won’t last. Stick with it my friend. Will agree though its still not a free ride. The job market recently can be rocky especially if you aren’t better than average at coding. Suppose the rest of the job market isn’t faring fabulously though either

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      Welding sounds 50% nicer though. Problem solving, but not head-breaking problems that follow you night and day for weeks on end. And after a project you have a tangible result that is actually generating some kind of value.

      When’s the last time a web service Lego ever did anything but been a financial black hole for VC funding that actually fails to deliver anything of value to society?

      Damn it, I think my cynicism dial got stuck again. Time for bedge.

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        Wherever you feel like living + internet. Most of the IT career fields don’t need to be in a physical office unless things go catastrophically wrong.

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          Is there any truth to this comment? Most everyone I know has been forced back to the office within the last couple of years.

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            Takes some job hunting to find a full remote job, and a willingness to tell an employer to eff off with RTO mandates or you’re leaving (and follow through).

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              Yeah so you don’t have job stability because rto is just one stupid decision away and looking for a other job like the one you had takes a lot of time, which you won’t have if you quit over rto.

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    It reads as the background story of the enemy “The Welder” in a horror video game that you would find through scattered notes.

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    one of the highest workers in demand

    A lot of workers are in higher demand, but most of them don’t smoke anywhere near as much weed at work.

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    You have to do your work outside and either standing or kneeling, and it gets hot as hell because of the heat of the welding. Sometimes you’re in vessels. It seems miserable. 82K isn’t even that much money for the work, in my opinion. Specialty workers can make more but still…

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      Not to mention 82k isnt the average. There’s plenty of work inside but it’s still loud, dirty, construction air nasty eating packed lunches on a bucket bullshit. Trade jobs can make you great money… huge caveat being it’s only when you’re working for yourself.

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    Doesn’t welding fuck up your eyesight when you get older? Maybe that’s why it’s in demand?

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        For real. The number of times I’ve seen people “weld” without proper eyewear is ridiculous. Mainly “street” techs or “friends” doing work for a quick buck. The ONE I saw recently using PPE was a corporate worker fixing a ladder in a retail store.

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            I wear a respirator while welding, but it’s only really a hobby for me so far. But now I’m curious, which filters actually catch manganese?

            I’m usually worried about accounting zinc (on galvanized steel), because it can make you ill for a couple days, unless you drink a glass of safety milk.

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              I know you said you’re just a hobbyist, but a positive air pressure respirator is just the way to go when you’re a welder. It’s basically an over the head setup that works like those old hazmat suits you’d see in movies. It’s got a fan or something blowing in slightly higher pressure air, so none of the air outside can get in as the air is always moving out due to the difference in pressure. What it means is that ALL particulates, gasses, and whatever else you don’t want to breathe have no way to get to you unless it somehow gets into whatever is supplying your air.

              They make fanny pack sized units with batteries that are mobile, which works for me as I’ve had to go down in ships and up on scissor lifts to do welding before. I believe they also make slightly bulkier stationary setups that are significantly cheaper but often require other equipment (eg. Specialized compressor) to function. The all in one setup i got is quite expensive (about $2k new) but I managed to find it for quite a bit cheaper used on ebay. I’m comfortable doing this as I’ve been a welder for 15 years and have experience with quite a few different PAPR systems and am confident in my ability to troubleshoot any problems. If you’re completely relying on something like this for safety without really knowing how it works, I’d recommend definitely getting something that comes with a warranty. The parts can be finicky, delicate, and expensive.

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          I have literally never seen a welding mask with either a built-in respirator or enough room in front of the mouth/nose to accommodate a separate one. Do such things even exist?

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            Are you serious? PAPR systems have been around forever. I’ve seen old setups that are fitted to use pressurized air from compressors. Just don’t forget to trap the line or you’re gonna get real oily and moist real fast.

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              Okay, look, I admit it: I own a welder, but I’m not a welder. My experience shopping for welding masks is limited to places like Harbor Freight and Amazon.com, and the notion of searching for “welding respirator” or “welding PAPR” instead of “welding mask” never crossed my mind until reading this thread.

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                First tip: we call them “hoods”. As in “drop the hood and get to welding”

                A welding mask to me is one of those handheld jobbies my instructor used to use back in welding school. Think clipboard on a stick with a very dark piece of glass over a cutout in the middle.

                Old “welding hoods” are literally that. A big leather hood that goes over your whole head with a little fixture to hold the welding lens over your face like snow goggles. They still make this style today for real heavy welding applications

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        Just looked it up and N95-P100 masks/respirators cover most exposure that welding should create. I’m a hobbyist welder, but wear a P100 respirator 95% if the time (100% indoors).

        From NIOSH:

        RESPIRATOR RECOMMENDATIONS

        NIOSH

        Up to 10 mg/m3
        (APF = 10) Any particulate respirator equipped with an N95, R95, or P95 filter (including N95, R95, and P95 filtering facepieces) except quarter-mask respirators. The following filters may also be used: N99, R99, P99, N100, R100, P100. 
        Click here for information on selection of N, R, or P filters.
        (APF = 10) Any supplied-air respirator

        Up to 25 mg/m3
        (APF = 25) Any supplied-air respirator operated in a continuous-flow mode
        (APF = 25) Any powered, air-purifying respirator with a high-efficiency particulate filter.

        Up to 50 mg/m3
        (APF = 50) Any air-purifying, full-facepiece respirator with an N100, R100, or P100 filter. 
        Click here for information on selection of N, R, or P filters.

        (APF = 50) Any supplied-air respirator that has a tight-fitting facepiece and is operated in a continuous-flow mode
        (APF = 50) Any powered, air-purifying respirator with a tight-fitting facepiece and a high-efficiency particulate filter
        (APF = 50) Any self-contained breathing apparatus with a full facepiece
        (APF = 50) Any supplied-air respirator with a full facepiece

        Up to 500 mg/m3
        (APF = 1000) Any supplied-air respirator operated in a pressure-demand or other positive-pressure mode

        Emergency or planned entry into unknown concentrations or IDLH conditions:
        (APF = 10,000) Any self-contained breathing apparatus that has a full facepiece and is operated in a pressure-demand or other positive-pressure mode
        (APF = 10,000) Any supplied-air respirator that has a full facepiece and is operated in a pressure-demand or other positive-pressure mode in combination with an auxiliary self-contained positive-pressure breathing apparatus

        Escape:
        (APF = 50) Any air-purifying, full-facepiece respirator with an N100, R100, or P100 filter. 
        Click here for information on selection of N, R, or P filters.

        Any appropriate escape-type, self-contained breathing apparatus\

        Important additional information about respirator selection

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            I think it splits hydrogen off of water molecules too, so if it’s at all humid in there, it might be explosive too.

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              Manganese does not split hydrogen from water molecules. I think you might have it mixed up with magnesium, which does but not at a high enough rate to release an explosive amount even if it’s liquid water and solid magnesium.

              Sodium and lithium do release enough hydrogen to be explosive and enough heat to ignite it when they are solid in liquid water, but I suspect the gases wouldn’t do that. The density is way lower, and if it does prefer stripping hydrogen from water molecules to just pairing up with the the O2 ones (some reading suggests that this is the case for solid sodium exposed to air), I bet the recently freed hydrogen will take that heat and just join up with the free O2 itself before it has a chance to build up. And the source would also be more spread out, so there wouldn’t be any reason for a high concentration to form even if the hydrogen doesn’t react immediately with O2 in the vicinity.

              Not that welding isn’t an explosive risk, but it’s usually due to the tanks used directly by the welding and/or explosive/accelerant materials in the vicinity of the weld.

              If someone offers you $80k to weld their fertilizer tank because it’s too full and they want to add an extension, politely decline and consider avoiding the general area until after it explodes.

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                There is no vessel in the known universe I would weld for any amount.

                (Mostly because I’m self taught and know that every mm of weld counts on those things).

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    Wile Coyote was never quite the same after his final divorce. He found Rebecca with the roadrunner.