Just Stop Oil activists throw soup at Van Gogh’s Sunflowers after fellow protesters jailed
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Three individuals targeted National Gallery paintings an hour after Phoebe Plummer and Anna Holland were jailed for similar attack in 2022

This was the one soup-throwing which did any damage at all; in this case to the frame.

The penalty is appreciably worse than for minor violent attacks.

  • grue@lemmy.worldEnglish
    97·
    3 months ago

    Who gives a fuck about “disapproval?” “Disapproval” is entirely irrelevant – actually no, more than that: “disapproval” is what reactionaries do when they can’t ignore you anymore, which is a sign that you’re winning.

    Change like this doesn’t happen because the Powers that Be “approve” of the protestors. Change like this happens because the protestors have caused enough disruption to force the Powers that Be to capitulate.

    • Optional@lemmy.world
      73·
      3 months ago

      Who gives a fuck about “disapproval?” “Disapproval” is entirely irrelevant

      If you’re trying to affect public opinion, it’s extremely relevant.

      Change like this happens because the protestors have caused enough disruption to force the Powers that Be to capitulate.

      Throwing soup on art. Listen to yourself. The Powers that Be are not affected one iota. In fact, as the study above has made clear, these twits have helped them.

      • grue@lemmy.worldEnglish
        47·
        3 months ago

        If you’re trying to affect public opinion,

        Yeah, and they’re not.

        Throwing soup on art.

        They did no such thing! They threw soup on glass, harmlessly.

        Why are you lying about both their motives and their actions?

    • Telorand@reddthat.com
      85·
      3 months ago

      Those people who disapprove vote. They absolutely matter, and pretending they don’t is why JSO will continue to lose.

      • grue@lemmy.worldEnglish
        74·
        3 months ago

        What the fuck are you even talking about? Do you think the Civil Rights Movement succeeded because White Moderates “voted” in favor of it?

        No, the Civil Rights Movement succeeded because the massive disruptions it caused made it clear that trying to preserve the white supremacist status quo would no longer be possible, and that the only alternative to negotiating concessions to the likes of MLK and the NAACP would be having to deal with the likes of Malcolm X instead.

        Similarly, Just Stop Oil’s path to victory has absolutely fuck-all to do with popular “approval” of their tactics, but everything to do with becoming so disruptive that it becomes worth it to capitulate to their demands to make the protests stop. Just Stop Oil is trying to be the Malcolm X of the climate movement. They don’t want your approval, and they don’t need your approval.

        Spamming the false notion that approval matters all over the thread is nothing but the reactionary pearl-clutching of a concern troll.

          • grue@lemmy.worldEnglish
            36·
            3 months ago

            Okay, let me be clearer: they didn’t vote to “approve” of the protestors. They voted to accede to the protestors demands even though they fucking hated MLK, because they had no choice.

        • Telorand@reddthat.com
          65·
          3 months ago

          Do you think the Civil Rights Movement succeeded because White Moderates “voted” in favor of it?

          It would not have succeeded otherwise, since they were the ones in power.

          Similarly, Just Stop Oil’s path to victory has absolutely fuck-all to do with popular “approval” of their tactics, but everything to do with becoming so disruptive that it becomes worth it to capitulate to their demands to make the protests stop.

          And look how well that’s working out: https://web.sas.upenn.edu/pcssm/commentary/public-disapproval-of-disruptive-climate-change-protests/

          Spamming the false notion that approval matters all over the thread is nothing but the reactionary pearl-clutching of a concern troll.

          Sounds like somebody is butthurt that they realize they don’t actually have a good defense other than nihilism. Refute my points, if you have a problem, but ad hominem attacks aren’t a valid justification why my points are invalid.

          • grue@lemmy.worldEnglish
            44·
            3 months ago

            What part of your study is measuring an irrelevant thing do you not fucking understand?