They can request and may be assigned an individual tax ID number (ITIN). Having an ITIN may allow them to open a bank account. It also makes it so they pay taxes which a surprising number want to do. Since they want to stay in the country, having a long history of paying taxes is a way to show you don’t want to cause trouble and you just want to work. Hell, a lot of them probably know they got Al Capone on tax evasion and don’t want to end up like him. Here’s a report I just Googled, and possibly the source of the number which is an estimate.

On the other side is how much tax funding is used on them. Here’s a report from the House of Representatives which states they use more in services (Medicare, WIC, sending kids to school, etc) than they pay. I can’t speak to how accurate the report is considering the makeup and views publicly expressed by members of the committee. I’m personally leaning towards ‘they don’t, and can’t, use as more than they contribute’ because they’re not eligible for many benefits.

Just because you’re undocumented doesn’t mean the IRS will give up on taking your money.

probably the tax on their daily spendings

Sensible question. Nobody even knows how many undocumented people are in a country - because they’re undocumented.

This has to be a made up figure. The sentiment might be correct but the data is dubious.

Not all taxes are collected, much of what we pay in taxes is added on to the cost of things.

More often than not they’re ashamed their wic is funded in large part by illegals. Pride is dangerous as fuck.

Just say you care about money more than people. It’s quicker and easier to ignore you than when you sputter out some pseudointellectual nonsense.

Undocumented immigrants can’t file income tax, because they are undocumented. However, they also can’t utilize the majority of our costly social services, because they, obviously, don’t have documentation. They can’t sign up for welfare programs, utilize police resources for fear of being deported, etc.

Overall though, they are also human. They produce similar economic demand to Americans. They pay sales tax. Their landlord pays tax on their rent. They are also often paid less than Americans because they have no ability to enforce the law through legal means (again, for fear of being deported), but still have to buy things like food, which is taxed.

Thus, they tend to, at a bare minimum, take roughly about what they put in, leaving a mostly neutral effect on the economy.

Immigration is generally regarded to boost innovation overall, lead to higher education rates within the workforce, and creates higher overall economic productivity., which is an effect on the economy that isn’t just taxes in, taxes out.

Of course, the best option we have is to grant them amnesty, because that then means they can file & pay income taxes, can more easily be statistically measured and analyzed as a group, and can engage in class solidarity through union organization, which raises working conditions and wages for all workers.

So much wrong with this post. First, the US does not have a VAT. Second, why would you ascribe an employees wages to the employer? Isn’t it the employees skills that earns them a wage? Third, what do you even mean with “undocumented “ migrants taking out of the system? They are undocumented and thus don’t have access to social security/medicaid etc.

We don’t have VAT in the US and we don’t track sales tax. This is from two sources. Immigrants that can use a tax ID number, and immigrants that cannot but still have taxes withheld from their paycheck. So the only effect is they can’t get a refund.

Explain to me how an illegal immigrant is “taking” anything from the system.

Imma go ahead and say the income tax & VAT combined don’t equal 97B.

Additionally, imma guess immigrants took out much less than the 97B they put into the system.

Fact check me.

Nah Bro, it’s biased against poor and pro rich. Taxes on income are nothing the company pays, it’s paid by the employees.

Taxes on profits and gains are circumvented by “declaring necessary investments” to set the net profit to 0.

I know there are cases where this is legit, but I doubt, Amazon and others just steal.

then turn it upside down and read the additional text which is in Latin.

Do you mean this literally?

Please get help or take your medication. The Constitution does not have a magic Latin section.

Sumbody forgot to take their medication today.

The full text of the original Constitution is available when you read the Constitution, then turn it upside down and read the additional text which is in Latin

Do you have the latin? What does the full text say?

Durrr. We need them to trickle down on some workers cause otherwise there wouldn’t be any jobs.

3-5 bucks ain’t much

Post like this are misinformation because people don’t understand the difference between revenue and profit.

I’d say it’s still important to post and talk about, not for the people who know and don’t care, but for the people who don’t know and do care.

Climate Town, is this you??

I was about to flame you up 😤😂

I hate you. Wait no I don’t 😂

Oh yes, I remember this. Duke assessed the river bed and determined that a cleanup could cause more damage and would be super expensive. So they did no cleanup AND increased rates.

Damn I hated you on those first lines 😂

You had me going there for a minute