• Tracked@sopuli.xyzOP
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    Really… Being called girl is offensive now 🙄…

    I don’t know you, why should I know that you want to be called a woman? And adult, even mature men are called “boys” even between them. Again, I don’t understand you first statement.

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      Idk, imagine being called a child, boy, preteen, teenager, or young adult when you’re in your late 20s or older.

      Hearing your friends say “the boys” or women hearing “the girls” is endearments between friends, not strangers.

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        I really… REALLY, disagree, as long as you don’t have bad intentions it’s all good

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          as long as you don’t have bad intentions it’s all good

          Generally speaking, this is a problematic philosophy.

          It’s all good if you have no bad intentions as long as you apologize when called out.

          Good intentions do not give you a free pass, however they do help others understand where you’re coming from if you bring them up when apologizing.

          “My bad, I didn’t know about that, growing up it was always okay to do XYZ”

          “Sorry I made it more stressful for you, I thought I was helping”

          hits very different from

          “This is ridiculous, I had good intentions and you’re still upset 🙄”

          In fact, if you say the latter you’re saying you have good intentions, but how good are those intentions if you refuse to help accommodate more?

          Some understanding and clear communication will do a lot to smooth the axles of the world.

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      Yes. Adult females do not want to be infantilized to be called “girls”. You don’t have to understand it to be a decent human being, you just have to accept it.

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      Is it really that shocking that a woman wouldn’t want to be called girl or child? Sure, boy is still used. But in your post you used man, not boy. I’d say an easy rule is if you’d use the word man in a sentence, don’t use the word girl.

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        It’s not shocking that a woman wouldn’t want to be called a girl. It’s shocking that this particular woman claims to speak for all womankind. Fuck that noise, I know plenty of women who say “girls” and “boys” to refer to females and males of all ages.

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          Woman, not girl. I’m an adult and expect to be treated as such.

          Interesting, cuz I’m interpreting that first sentence to mean how she’d like to be referred to, due to the second sentence referring to herself. Also note the singular “woman” and “girl”, not plural “women” and “girls”. Based on that it’s pretty clear she’s referring to an individual and not all womankind.

          Am I missing something where she claims to speak for all womankind?

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      Hi, man here. I obviously can’t speak for women, but I can answer your question from my perspective.

      “Girl” is a term used for young, inexperienced, non-adult female humans. When you call an adult woman a girl, you imply that she, her thoughts, and opinions are juvenile, and therefore are not to be taken as seriously as those of an adult. It’s called “infantilizing” and is disrespectful to that women, and realistically to all women.

      For a moment, imagine you’re with another man you don’t know and when you say something, he contradicts you and begins to address you as “boy” or “son” in his response. His intent is to diminish you as a person and make you feel small, inferior or less a man or expert as him.

      Now, I don’t know what country you come from or if English is your first language; this cultural aspect can apply to other English speaking countries, but specifically I’m talking about the US. One could certainly be forgiven for speaking English as a second language or not being from the US and not knowing this specific thing. I hope this helps.

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            Read your responses and read mine. Who’s who? You keep insulting me for no reason, your “reason” is that i used the word girl, in a general, correct context… You see how ridiculous are you acting or not?

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        Well written. To add: “Boy” coming from a white person to a black man is even more offensive, what with all the chattel slavery history and whatnot.

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            He specifically mentioned “in the context of the US”.

            If he had been talking about any other English-speaking country, I’d say it would be somewhat irrelevant.

            But it most certainly isn’t when talking about the US, especially southern US.