• oberstoffensichtlich@feddit.org
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    2 months ago

    Instead of making up international humanitarian law in your head, you could read it.

    https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule24

    Rule 24. Each party to the conflict must, to the extent feasible, remove civilian persons and objects under its control from the vicinity of military objectives.

    https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule129

    Rule 129.

    A. Parties to an international armed conflict may not deport or forcibly transfer the civilian population of an occupied territory, in whole or in part, unless the security of the civilians involved or imperative military reasons so demand.

    B. Parties to a non-international armed conflict may not order the displacement of the civilian population, in whole or in part, for reasons related to the conflict, unless the security of the civilians involved or imperative military reasons so demand

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      Rule 24. Each party to the conflict must, to the extent feasible, remove civilian persons and objects under its control from the vicinity of military objectives.

      That’s NOT what Israel is doing. They’re constantly DIRECTING military force at civilians

      B. Parties to a non-international armed conflict may not order the displacement of the civilian population, in whole or in part, for reasons related to the conflict, unless the security of the civilians involved or imperative military reasons so demand

      Weird that you’d include this in DEFENSE of Israel since that’s what they’re constantly doing. Hell, sometimes they’ll even force civilians into a so-called “safe zone” and then bomb that area!

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        I’m including it because you seem to utterly unaware of international law.

        Israel has attacked military objectives in safe zones. That is legal under international law. Hamas putting their weapons depots and operating bases in areas protected under international humanitarian law is a war crime. Attacking these is not a war crime.

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          I’m including it because you seem to utterly unaware of international law.

          Is it opposite day already? Or just the Zionist Day of Projection, which is every day that ends in a y?

          Israel has attacked military objectives in safe zones

          A zone is by definition not safe if it contains a military objective. That’s so obvious that it’s frankly embarrassing for both of us that I have to point it out to you.

          That is legal under international law

          Would be if it wasn’t horseshit. The IDF claims phantom militants everywhere they bomb. In the vast majority of cases, there’s no legitimate military target.

          Hamas putting their weapons depots and operating bases in areas protected under international humanitarian law

          According to the IDF, an organization synonymous with concocting falsehoods to excuse deliberate targeting of civilians.

          is a war crime

          Even if they WEREN’T lying about there being Hamas bases there, bombing a hospital or a school or a refugee camp would STILL be a war crime.

          Nobody’s forcing Israel to kill civilians. Israel is TARGETING civilians, with the “bases” made up afterwards and never proven to exist in the vast majority of cases.

          Attacking these is not a war crime.

          Yes, it most certainly is. Forgetting for a second that there’s hardly ever any hostiles there, bombing civilians is a war crime.

          Imagine for a second that, unbeknownst to you, the guy who lives in the apartment below yours is a terrorist. Would that make it acceptable for your government to reduce the entire block to rubble, killing you and every other civilian in the process?

          I say no, and so does international law.

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            Please read the law and stop embarrassing yourself.

            If Israel designates a protected/safe (there’s more detail to this) zone, then it’s a war crime of Hamas to move a military objective into it. The military objective inside a safe zone does not enjoy protection.

            A hospital loses its protected status once it’s used for military purposes.

            https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule10

            Rule 10. Civilian objects are protected against attack, unless and for such time as they are military objectives.

            Rule 25. Medical personnel exclusively assigned to medical duties must be respected and protected in all circumstances. They lose their protection if they commit, outside their humanitarian function, acts harmful to the enemy.

            Hiding military operations under the red or Red Crescent is a war crime.

            Rule 59. The improper use of the distinctive emblems of the Geneva Conventions is prohibited.

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              Please read the law and stop embarrassing yourself.

              I could say the same to you, but your reading comprehension and willingness to embarrass yourself to excuse Apartheid and genocide seem to be inversely proportional.

              I’ll not be engaging further as you are clearly arguing in bad faith, incapable of understanding any information that doesn’t conform with the Hasbara gaslighting you spread like an infection, or both.

              Have the day you deserve.

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                  You have done nothing BUT come up with excuses for the genocide and Apartheid system of Israel.

                  Now leave me alone and have the day you deserve like I said.