Time to move the unacceptable line farther away again.
ITT: Bunch of people understandably blackpilled on the justice system.
New York Times you are a bad joke now. Good of you to finally wake up but we will see how long that lasts.
It’s an opinion piece, not representing the nyt
Now watch as nearly half the voting population accepts this behavior.
Trump lives on the wrong side of every line. If you can no longer support him after his latest transgression, you are probably on the wrong side of a bunch of issues. I’m glad people are realizing they cannot support him anymore, but there is not nearly enough introspection among former Trumpers.
Again? Wake me when he’s held accountable.
he’s got no lines to cross… he lives on yhe other side of humanity. However lines werr and will be crossed when US public elects him.
Millions of dogs and cats are eaten around the world yearly.
This is a fact, and we can come to certain conclusions.
Could you spell out what conclusions you take from that?
I’d say one conclusion (yes, an assumption) I could make is that dogs and cats somewhere in America have been eaten.
Yepp, at some point at some time someone in USA has eaten a dog or a cat. But do Haitians regularly steal other people’s pets and eat them? Very unlikely.
Probably not a common occurrence. Has it happened? I’m sure at some point.
On a post about Trump saying that Haitians are taking other people’s pets and eating them, you said:
Millions of dogs and cats are eaten around the world yearly.
This is a fact, and we can come to certain conclusions.
You can’t blame people from thinking that you are inferring that Trump is telling the truth.
But we’ve come to the conclusion now that Trump is indeed lying and Haitians aren’t stealing people’s pets and eating them. Has it ever happened anywhere? Very possible. Is it currently happening in Springfield? No.
You’re an idiot.
Lol. Way to illustrate that you don’t understand what’s going on here.
Yeah, I’m wondering about that too…
If I were to speculate…
- There are people in some countries that eat dogs and cats.
- Someone’s neighbour’s sister friend said they saw someone with a dead cat with the intent to eat it.
Therefore immigrants are regularly stealing other people’s pets and are eating them.
We can extrapolate this with anything.
- There are people that poop their pants.
- There are reports of Trump wearing diapers and smelling liken poop.
I think ww can draw our own conclusion about this one…
… Again? He does that all the time, how is this news?
He didn’t do that when he committed treason probably a thousand times?
I was going to say the “grab them by the pussy” tape was crossing the line, but yeah, treason as well.
Habitual line-stepper!
He crossed it before he was president when he suggested he wouldn’t accept the results of an election.
No he hasn’t
We’re far beyond the point of no return with these “people.” We know, they know, everybody knows what a menace they are and there’s no pretending otherwise. He set up the system in his favor last time, and could possibly reap the rewards in November. Protesting and harsh rhetoric will accomplish nothing.
But we’re all too comfortable to truly defend normalcy anymore. We’ll watch it happen.
…again. And there will be absolutely no consequences. Again.
It’s on voters to impose them by keeping him out of office
To bad half of them are hateful fucking morons.
Half of us…Let’s not other-ize them because I’m assuming you are also American, and like it or not they are our fucking peers.
One way or another they are our fucking problem to deal with unfortunately. I know you didn’t really mean it like that most likely, but I think it is important to recognize that we have to accept the reality of the society we are living in no matter how much we fucking hate it.
No, I did mean it like that.
I’m absolutely certain I’m a “them” to them. They’re trying to turn my country into a shit hole that’s dangerous for people like me and even more dangerous for people I care about. So fuck them. I’m willing to forgive the simpletons who don’t understand what they’re doing, but there is no “us” anymore unless and until they give up entirely on their dreams of building a racially pure fascist theocracy and do a really, really good job of showing they’re sincere and remorseful. Their leaders need to be swinging from ropes just like the Nazis convicted at Nuremberg, or at least rotting in prison. I won’t be holding my breath for that to happen.
The thing I believe you are missing in your assessment is that it took outside forces to overcome Nazism in Germany, and Fascism in Europe more broadly.
Nobody is coming to save us this time. We are the world’s leading nuclear superpower. So, any attempt to change course is going to have to come from within unless we are talking about destroying civilization entirely.
I don’t see a way that outside diplomacy is going to have any effect either. We must accept the reality we are in, and fight back by using grassroots methods to stop the radicalization of our peers.
I grant you that it feels like a hopeless battle at times, but so do all wars of attrition. I understand the anger and the fear. It is justified. However, we need to be clear eyed and sober minded about the reality we are living in. So, I think my original point still stands.
It really, really shouldn’t be just on voters. This shit is defamatory and incites violence; there should be legal consequences for it.
That would require the rule of law but we apparently ran out of that awhile ago and forgot to buy more. Or really, it never applied to certain people as much as others and now that is truly laid bare by the failures of the legal system to bring consequences for the crimes we have all witnessed Trump committing.
Yeah, I wish the legal system didn’t have this deference to “the voters will decide” when it reaches the level of actual criminal activity. Like the fact that you are running for or currently hold some office should have no impact at all on whether we are all equal before the law or how the law treats us. Yet every court and law enforcement agency seems terrified of the appearance of influencing the outcome of an election to the point that as long as you are running for something you are essentially legally bulletproof if the election is coming up soon.
