• zarkanian@sh.itjust.works
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    5 days ago

    I think what he’s saying is that “eating dogs” is bad and “unchecked immigration risk” is also bad. Therefore, it’s okay to lie about one in order to warn about the other. I see extremists do this all the time. By the same token, it’s okay to lie about post-birth abortions, because abortion is bad, and if lying about it helps to prevent abortions, then it’s for a good cause.

    These assholes use this logic to lie about all kinds of things. They know that they’re lying. At least, the smart ones do. They just see it as justified.

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      4 days ago

      Yeah it’s a form of (for lack of a better term) virtue signalling within extremist groups. “I’m so dedicated to the cause I’m willing to lie to further it!”

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      He’s implying immigrants commit crimes, even if they didn’t commit this specific crime, so it’s OK to make up a batshit scenario that never happened because other things do happen.

      Of course, every fucking statistic out there proves that immigrants, per capita, commit less crimes than citizens. Which makes sense - why the fuck would you spend all that time and money getting here, just to commit a crime and immediately be kicked out? Are there a small percentage of immigrants involved in narcotics and gangs? Sure. Are there citizens involved in narcotics and gangs? Yes. A lot more.

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        Yeah and undocumented immigrants commit crimes at a way lower rate than citizens and legal immigrants. Like half. Because if they get arrested for anything they’re probably getting deported. Pretty big incentive to stay out of trouble.

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      5 days ago

      I think what he’s saying is that “eating dogs” is bad and “unchecked immigration risk” is also bad.

      I think it’s even simpler. We always way overestimate these guys.

      Their agenda, their direction: white nationalist ethnostate, mass deportation/genocide.

      Anything that helps create division and tension between races and ethnicities is towards this goal. They want full-on race riots and angry backlash, escalating and escalating. Anything the clown says that makes anyone angry is part of that direction. We all need to remember that as long as we’re giving open racism airtime and saying inflammatory nonsense they are moving towards their direction.

      In my youth, I had always worried about the people who would use our freedom against us, but I was always reassured that the people would see through all but the cleverest and most beguiling of sinister bad-actors. I guess it was a different time and people had grown accustomed to the nationalized broadcasting stations. It would have been unimaginable that an overt cartoon caricature of a criminal politician, with a gaggle of criminal henchmen spouting open racism and hate would become the figureheads and seeds of our eventual doom, but memories are short and attention spans have been whittled to nothing.