• LittleLordLimerick@lemm.ee
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        When people say “anti-woke”, they actually mean that they are anti-doing anything about the awareness of systemic inequality that wokeness indicates. By definition, someone who is against change/progress is a conservative, so when someone says they are anti-woke, they are by definition expressing a conservative stance. That is, wanting to do something about systemic inequality is synonymous with having a progressive stance on systemic inequality.

        Being a tankie, on the other hand, is not synonymous with being a comunist. Tankies are just one form of communist (militant).

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          And when people say they are “anti-tankie”, they actually mean that they are anti doing anything about the awareness of systematic inequality that tankie indicates. By definition, someone who is against change/progress is a conservative, so when someone says they are anti-tankie, they are by definition expressing a conservative stance. That is, wanting to do something about systemic inequality is synonymous with having a progressive stance on systemic inequality.

          Being a tankie, on the other hand, is not synonymous with being a comunist. Tankies are just one form of communist (militant).

          Other way around: communists are just one form of tankies, the word is also used to refer to anarchists and some soc-dems.

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            You’re spun around, flipped upside-down, and confused as can be.

            Tankie is a term that specifically refers to one particular kind of communism; namely, the kind that supports authoritarian regimes that try to impose communism through the use of force to repress dissent.

            You can be a communist and not be a tankie. You cannot be against progress and be a progressive.

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              You’re spun around, flipped upside-down, and confused as can be.

              Very compelling, but have you considered

              spoiler

              PIGPOOPBALLS

              Tankie is a term that specifically refers to one particular kind of communism

              No, it’s used to refer a wide, vague blob of vibes, just like the word woke. The people who use it can can do use it to refer to all kinds of communists, most anarchists, and anything to the left of Elizabeth Warren in general.

              that try to impose communism through the use of force.

              As opposed to the kind of communism where you ask nicely for revolution? Have you actually read any Marx? I guarantee he was not a pacifist.

              You can be a communist and not be a tankie

              By your own definition you cannot, let alone by a definition of tankie that describes how libs actually use it.

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                As opposed to the kind of communism where you ask nicely for revolution? Have you actually read any Marx? I guarantee he was not a pacifist.

                You deliberately misquoted me by cutting off the end of that sentence so you could have a nice soft strawman to swing at. The full sentence said

                that try to impose communism through the use of force to repress dissent.

                Forceful revolution by the workers against the capitalist class is a completely different matter from forceful repression of dissent by the state against students and professors.

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              impose communism through the use of force to repress dissent.

              All societies impose force to repress dissent (other than anarchist communes I guess, where force is mediated by norms)