Got greeted with this message today. I’ve been playing Apex on linux for more than a year. Not sure if this could be related? Is this just me?

I’ve contested the ban and I’m currently waiting for a response from ea support.

  • Draconic NEO@lemmy.world
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    You sound like most of the trolls I see on places like 4chan and kiwi who assume or make up awful shit about people to justify their behavior towards them. What’s more important is that you don’t have any proof OP is a bad-faith actor. You’re fostering ill-will of someone based on an assumption. Oh wait you’re going to say that you blieve that the “proof” is that other people do it so therefore OP did it? Yeah that’s called circular logic, you are making an assumption about the OP and then coming to the conclusion based on that assumption. We’ve seen trolls do this all the time, it’s a common tactic and it does indeed sometimes work on those who don’t recognize the fallacy, or those who are afraid of standing up, two things that are absolutely not the case here in this community, people do recognize the fallacy, and people here aren’t afraid to stand up against people who are fostering ill-will towards others without merit.

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      You dont even know this guy… yet you are so sure he is not cheating… lmfao

      Proof = he was banned its the OP picture! You have 0 proof he did not cheat and you dont know him but here you are so sure he “dindu nuffin” wrong and Im a bad guy.

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        Proof he was banned isn’t proof he is a cheater, that’s the circular logic but I’m sure you know that already. I am definitely sure of one thing though, you are a troll, a bad-faith actor, or both, trying to foster ill-will towards an individual you do not know based on faulty logic, when in reality you couldn’t prove the claims you make against him, even if your life depended on it.

        yet you are so sure he is not cheating… lmfao

        You also are mischaracterizing and making bad-faith assumptions because people aren’t willing to take your lies and logical fallacies as “the truth”. The fact of the matter is, you cannot prove that OP cheated, all you can do is assume he did and use the fact he was banned as justification for it being true, drawing conclusion from the assumption without any evidence. That isn’t a real argument, that is you trying to phrase your own assumption based on nothing at all as if it were an indisputable fact. Which it clearly is not.

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          Where is your proof he is not cheating??? You call this circular conversation because you cant prove that he is not cheating anymore than I can. The only thing we know for sure is that his account is banned.

          I been playing video games all my life and I have never been banned. Believe what ever you want to believe just don’t try and feed me shit about a topic Im very fluent in.

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            You call this circular conversation because you cant prove that he is not cheating anymore than I can.

            Yet you sit here trying to argue that OP IS a cheater and you cannot prove it, you sit here trying to foster ill will towards OP. No one needs to prove OP isn’t a cheater, OP doesn’t need to try and prove this to you either, much less to you. You however need to cough up the proof that he is though, otherwise it is an unmerited accusation on your own assumptions, in other-words a baseless claim. No one owes anyone proof that their baseless accusations aren’t true, especially to random dudes online such as yourself.

            The only thing we know for sure is that his account is banned.

            Thanks captain obvious, no one is contesting or trying to argue otherwise. If you feel they are you either misread/misunderstood something or are deliberately misrepresenting as part of a bad faith argument to attack arguments we never made, typically called a strawman argument.

            I been playing video games all my life and I have never been banned. Believe what ever you want to believe just don’t try and feed me shit about a topic Im very fluent in.

            Translation: You’ve been unchallenged for many years in your claims that random players who were banned must in fact be cheaters and you’re upset that someone is finally challenging and calling out your faulty arguments with facts and logic, and pointing out exactly why they are faulty arguments, typically made in bad faith by trolls. Something that is not only uncomfortable for you but also weakens future arguments you may make since people know the trick and aren’t going to be as likely to submit without challenging you.

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              I can prove it…open your eyes and see picture OP posted ill even read it for you. “Permanently banned” the definition of permanently is for ever. You are not challenging shit!

              Ok, so in Good faith I have proof that he was banned and again permanently banned. Do you know what happens the first time you cheat and get caught?? You dont get a permanent ban the 1st offense.

              But keep defending a total stranger!

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                I can prove it…open your eyes and see picture OP posted ill even read it for you. “Permanently banned” the definition of permanently is for ever. You are not challenging shit!

                You are a troll for sure, this is classic strawmanning. It’s already been thoroughly explained that no one is challenging the nature of OP being banned yet you keep making us out to be because it’s the only thing you can actually refute or prove with any certainty. It’s strawmanning because nor did I or anyone else here argue it.

                Ok, so in Good faith I have proof that he was banned and again permanently banned. Do you know what happens the first time you cheat and get caught?? You dont get a permanent ban the 1st offense.

                I think it’s clear you don’t play EA games or play on Linux or you’d know that this isn’t correct. It’s an assumption, and like many assumptions it can be correct, but it can also be wrong, and reality isn’t kind to this one, boy oh boy:

                Many people have been permanently banned by EA as a first offense, a lot of this could easily be found with a simple web search.

                But keep defending a total stranger!

                Hmm so what you’re saying is that I should instead listen to you, a person who is also a total stranger, one who has a history of trolling and bad faith arguments? As opposed to the OP who has a comprehensive and rational explanation of the situation which you have provided no convincing counter arguments to, only circular arguments and strawman.

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                  2 days ago

                  Why would a game ban its player base on a different OS. All the money is green! Its a bad excuse for getting banned. But if it makes you feel better.

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                    2 days ago

                    Indeed it makes no sense, but EA is famous for doing things that make no sense, harm their reputation and playerbase. For someone who claims to be knowledgeable you should indeed already know this about EA. Yet you somehow consider them trustworthy, and wonder why people think you are a troll.