Vladimir Putin has said that a western move to let Kyiv use longer-range weapons against targets inside Russia would mean Nato would be “at war” with Moscow.

Putin spoke as US and UK top diplomats discussed easing rules on firing western weapons into Russia, which Kyiv has been pressing for, more than two and a half years into Moscow’s offensive.

“This would in a significant way change the very nature of the conflict,” Putin told a state television reporter.

“It would mean that Nato countries, the US, European countries, are at war with Russia,” he added. “If that’s the case, then taking into account the change of nature of the conflict, we will take the appropriate decisions based on the threats that we will face.”

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    5 days ago

    Ok well I guess we’re all going to be affected. I propose that blender thing for putin when they get him out of the smokey hole.

  • Cpo@lemm.ee
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    “Vladimir Putin says…”

    Aaand my brain switches off. Another red line.

  • Lord Wiggle@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    Another bluff. Also, we can just call it “special military operations”.

    Also, NATO includes Canada. Not just the US and European countries, like the article says.

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    Putin is only 5’6".

    If he was a man, he would be a manlet.

    But he is an orc, 5’6" is pretty tall for an orc.

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      They’ve been calling it for basically the last whole war.

      In fact, it’s been done pretty masterfully by not making one huge step, but small steps where no single one would force him to do something, but just over time each small step eventually gets to the point where he said he would have to do something…and hasn’t.

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        This is exactly the point. They are already at full throttle war with the West. The only further escalation they could make would be nukes, which would be their end, NATO can take out all of Russias nuclear capacity and win the war in Ukraine all with conventional weapons.

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    7 days ago

    Anyone who has played the ‘Risk’ board game has an idea what the next moves should be.

    • calcopiritus@lemmy.world
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      So they should conquer the entirety of Asia in one turn, to get an extra 7 units per turn in order to afford their war with Europe?

    • Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world
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      Risk didn’t properly account for Russia’s nukes being parted out for the last 50 years by black-market scalpers.

      They almost certainly lack sufficient unadulterated fuel, complete/functional nav systems, accurate arming systems or reliable detonation systems.

  • ikidd@lemmy.world
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    Let Ukraine use slightly longer range weapons than anything they can prove has been fired by Russia. Every escalation by Russia is permission to use the next tier of missiles to wipe them out.

  • Rakonat@lemmy.world
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    Well Putin, if you don’t want a war with NATO, you could always do the responsible thing and get the fuck out of Ukraine and stop launching illegal invasions of your neighbors.

      • Rakonat@lemmy.world
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        Chapter VII of the UN Charter, I.E. internationally agreed upon law by UN signatories, which Russia as a sitting member of the security council should be obliged to obey, states use of force against another country, especially other members of the UN is prohibited except in cases of self-defense or by authorization of UN Council.

        So no, every invasion is not inherently illegal. That’s only explicitly true when you talk about Russia, because like every authoritarian power they only care about rules when they benefit them.

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      Russia have repeatedly admitted it has no chance of beating Nato. Hence the nuclear escalation is the only matter to discuss. A beated nation will press all the buttons.

  • A32topsL🌰@lemmy.world
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    NATO should at least shoot down missiles and drones which enter their sovereign airspace. Save Ukrainian lives and structures. Would also be actual experience of shooting down such actual enemy hardware in their own airspace. No simulation, no controlled environment. Would also train their AI for real.

    • DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world
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      maybe attack Ukrainian separatists as they are technically not Russian, and have flying transmitters over Ukraine and in the Black Sea with anti-Putin broadcasts.

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    Not to mention, Russia has been waging asymetric warfare tactics against NATO powers for years. If anything, it’s that they haven’t woken up to the nature of the conflict.